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Tuesday, March 8, 2022

The Mystery of the Magi By Dwight Longenecker, Post #4

This is the fourth and final post of a series on Dwight Longenecker’s The Mystery of the Magi: The Quest to Identify the Three Wise Men.  You can read Post #1 here.  

Post #2 here. 

Post #3 here.  

 


Summary

Chapter 10, “The Star of Bethlehem”

Next Fr. Longenecker takes on the legend of the Magi following the star to Jesus.  Fr. Longenecker evaluates various theories: a supernatural phenomenon, a natural astronomical event, or an astrological reading of the night sky.  Each of these generic theories have specific possibilities.  First Longenecker attempts to understand how Matthew understood the star?

 

Matthew, of course, never says that a supernatural star guided the wise men across the desert. He mentions the star twice. First the wise men say to Herod, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him” (Matthew 2:2). A few verses later Matthew continues, “After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was” (Matthew 2:9).  [p. 113]

I’m not going to summarize each of the theories but some of them considered are a comet, a meteor, a supernova, an alignment of planets, celestial divination, the helical rising and falling of Jupiter, and astrological reading of the stars.

Chapter 11, “Wise Men from the East”

Here Longenecker explores the understanding of Matthew’s use of the term “wise men” for the Magi and what Matthew meant by “from the East.”  In so doing Longenecker recapitulates the theory that the Magi were Nabateans star gazers, that the “East” referred to the land of the Nabateans, and how the legends of the Magi developed into what it has become.  Longenecker then goes into some of the very earliest of Christian writings—when the legends had not developed yet—and located passages from the Church fathers substantiating his theory.  Longenecker then proposes how the real knowledge of the Magi was lost as the Church center of gravity moved from the Middle East to the European continent.

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One theory on the star of Bethlehem that Fr. Longenecker did not consider, though it would fall under the supernatural category, is that of St. John Chrysostom back in the fourth to fifth century was that the star was an angel.  I came across this theory from Aleteia, the Catholic online magazine, the other day.  Chrysostom proposed in his Homily on the Gospel of Matthew.  (Link is provided in the article.)  First he rejects the scientific phenomena theory because he does not believe there are stars that move from east to west.  

 

[W]hether it was a star by nature or a star in appearance only, we shall easily know the other things also. Whence then will these points be manifest? From the very things that are written. Thus, that this star was not of the common sort, or rather not a star at all, as it seems at least to me, but some invisible power transformed into this appearance, is in the first place evident from its very course. For there is not, there is not any star that moves by this way, but whether it be the sun you mention, or the moon, or all the other stars, we see them going from east to west; but this was wafted from north to south, for so is Palestine situated with respect to Persia.

Second he points out that no star could have been visible in the daytime.

 

In the second place, one may see this from the time also. For it appears not in the night, but in mid-day, while the sun is shining; and this is not within the power of a star, nay not of the moon; for the moon that so much surpasses all, when the beams of the sun appear, straightway hides herself, and vanishes away. But this by the excess of its own splendor overcame even the beams of the sun, appearing brighter than they, and in so much light shining out more illustriously.

Third he points out that it would be impossible for a star to come to rest above a single child, and concludes it had to be an angel.


For it did not, remaining on high, point out the place; it not being possible for them so to ascertain it, but it came down and performed this office. For you know that a spot of so small dimensions, being only as much as a shed would occupy, or rather as much as the body of a little infant would take up, could not possibly be marked out by a star…How then, tell me, did the star point out a spot so confined, just the space of a manger and shed, unless it left that height and came down, and stood over the very head of the young child? And at this the evangelist was hinting when he said, Lo, the star went before them, till it came and stood over where the young Child was ... Therefore after He has brought them, leading them by the hand, and has set them by the manger; it is no longer by a star, but by an angel that He now discourses unto them.

I do lean to Fr, Longenecker’s theory of an astrological prediction, but if I had to go with a supernatural theory, I do like Chrysostom’s angel theory.  If angels individually visited Joseph and Mary then why not the Wise Men?  For me none of the natural astronomical event theories make sense.

My Comment:

I subscribe to The St. Paul Center for weekly emails on the Sunday Mass readings. This is Scott Hahn's organization and he usually provides a short explanation of the readings akin to a homily. This coming Sunday (Jan 2) is the Epiphany of the Lord, where we get the readings on the Magi, and you can listen to Scott give his thoughts on these readings here.  

It's apparent Scott has not read Fr. Longenecker's book. He says the Magi "probably came from Persia." Well we now know otherwise! They came from the Nabatean Kingdom. Is n't it something that we know something about Catholicism that the great Scott Hahn doesn't? ;) At least Scott says "probably."

My Comment:

An article today by Fr. Longenecker essentially summarizing his book: "TWELVE REASONS WHY THE MAGIWERE ARABIANS NOT PERSIANS"


I guess it's from his personal blog.

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Summary

Chapter 12, “What Happened to the Wise Men?”

This chapter divides into two parts.  The first part, Longenecker goes line by line of the Magi passage in Matthew and provides his final response to all he has walked us through in the book.  The second half of the chapter Longenecker speculates what happened to the Magi after the Nativity event and how they may have shaped Christianity afterward.  Could the Magi have settled with the Essenes of the Dead Sea Scroll community?  Could the Magi or their next generation have shaped St. Paul’s theology when St. Paul after his conversion spent three years in the desert meditating on the significance of Christ?  Longenecker provides some evidence that support those claims. 

Conclusion, “Why Does it Matter?”

Here Longenecker justifies why knowing the true history of the Magi should be known.  Because it supports the facts of the life of Jesus Christ, and knowing that the Magi were not mythical weakens the skeptic’s arguments against Christianity.

Epilogue, “What Happens to the Epiphany?”

Longenecker spends a few concluding pages on contemplating what de-mystifying the Magi implies to our understanding of the Feast of the Epiphany.  He feels it doesn’t alter it much.

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Gerri Commented:

I didn't realize Fr. Longenecker was a priest. I knew he was a convert and thought he was a deacon.

 

In his closing pages, he, too, wants what we discussed earlier - for other scholars to take up the topic and continue the research he started.

 

And I agree with him: de-mystifying the Magi doesn't alter my understanding or appreciation of the Feast of the Epiphany.

My Reply to Gerri:

It didn't alter mine. If anything it enhanced it. What seemed like a made up story made it real for me, and in that reality it deepened my faith. Truth be told, I'm not keen on hagiographic stories, including saints' lives.

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Before we leave this book, I wanted to discuss the second half of chapter 12, the speculative section on the Magi going to Damascus, joining with the Essenes, and then years later St. Paul spending three years learning from the Essenes and the next generation Magi.  This theory resonated quite strongly with me.  I don’t know if you have known about the three years St. Paul spent in Arabia after his conversion.  It’s in Arabia that Paul seems to discern what Christianity is all about.  Remember before his conversion experience he was a strict Pharisee.  He has his conversation on the road to Damascus where he goes blind, is taken to Christians in Damascus, has his sight returned, gives himself up to Christ, and is baptized.  Fr. Longenecker then quotes Paul.

 

“But when God . . . was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being. I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus. Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Peter and stayed with him fifteen days.” (Galatians 1:11–18) [p. 148]

I’ve always been intrigued by those three years.  I always took it as he spent three years “in the desert” contemplating how Jesus fits into Judaism and what Jesus as a crucified, “failed” messiah means.  The messiah to the Pharisees was supposed to be a conquering hero who was going to overthrow the earthly shackles on the Jewish people.  But Jesus didn’t do that.  But Paul clearly had a supernatural experience encountering Christ, and so he could not deny Christ wasn’t who He said He was.  So how did this all fit together?  We see from Paul’s letters he more than any of the apostles derives the theology from the Old Testament and from Christ’s life and teachings.  Was this theology all from Paul’s contemplative three years in Arabia? 

Fr. Longenecker lays out some important questions.

 

[Jean] Daniélou mentions [in Primitive Christian Symbols] an ancient tradition that Paul was converted at Castle Kokhba, the name of which means “Star Tower.” If there is truth to the ancient tradition, then Paul was blinded by a radiant light at Kokhba, which means “star.” Was his sudden illumination seen as a sign of direct divine revelation similar to the star that had led the Magi to Christ?

 

Immediately after his conversion Paul went into Arabia for three years. What prompted him to do that? His sojourn in Arabia has mystified scholars. Some suggest he went there to begin his missionary work, but this seems unlikely so soon after his sudden conversion. Others suggest that he went into Arabia for a meditative retreat, like Jesus’ forty days in the wilderness.

 

The New Testament scholar Margaret Barker observes, “After his conversion, Paul went to Arabia, and his visit may help to identify the magi. He came back better informed about his new faith and able to explain that Christianity was rooted in something older than the law of Moses. Who instructed him?” (p. 149)

I don’t know about that blinding light being connected with the Magi star, but what exactly did Paul do in the Arabia and how did he become so insightful to Christianity?  I think it’s generally acknowledged that Christian thought more directly derives from Essenes’ Judaism and not the Pharisee’s understanding of Judaism. 

One could quote almost all of Longenecker writing from page 148 to 154, but that would be too extensive.  Let me just quote these paragraphs which kind of pulls together his theory:

 

We find in Paul’s theology a synthesis of the same three cultural and religious strains that we find in the Nabateans. The first strain is Abrahamic Judaism. This is the Judaism from before the destruction of Solomon’s temple by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC. The Arabian tribes claimed descent from Abraham, and Nabatean religion had its roots in the earlier Abrahamic religion. This earlier form of Judaism was also the religion of the Jewish refugees who fled into Arabia in the sixth century BC.

 

The second strain in Paul’s theology is the mystery religions that had grown out of Mesopotamian culture and were the second source of Nabatean culture and religion. Paul warns his followers of the dangers of mystery religions, but he also uses the language and imagery of the mystery religions, correcting them and using them to point to the mystery of redemption in Jesus Christ.

 

Paul also understands Greek philosophy, which he integrates successfully into his theology. The Nabateans had also absorbed and integrated elements of Greek culture, religion, and philosophy.

 

Somewhere and somehow, Paul learned how these three elements could be fused to explain the gospel of Jesus Christ to a non-Jewish audience. Did he develop his theology during his three years in Arabia and Damascus? Who were his teachers? Did Paul learn from a school of Nabatean wise men? Was he taught by the Magi themselves?  (p. 150-1)

Longenecker goes on to expand on each of these strains teasing out the theology Paul formulates from them.  I don’t know if Longencker is perfectly correct on what Paul formulates from these strains but I do think he is on to something as to Paul’s sources.  What cannot be argued against is that Christianity is not Pharisaic Judaism, and Paul’s Christian theology is much more than what comes from the Pharisees.  I’m a supporter of Longenecker’s theory here. 

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Kerstin Commented:

Fr. Longenecker is definitely on to something. He is connecting the story of the Magi with the larger cosmology. On the last page, p. 164, he writes:

The Magi's whole world view and cosmology were predicated upon a belief that the "heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament shows his handiwork."

We in the West have gotten lost in the weeds over the past centuries in materialism, functionalism, legalism, etc., etc. We have looked less and less to the heavens and wondered at the Cosmological Order as a whole. In contrast, Eastern Orthodoxy has retained this sense of wonder and mystery of the Cosmological Order.

 

On page 154 Fr. Longenecker writes:

The foundation of the Jewish religion is the covenant of faith that was established with Abraham and his descendants. Margaret Barker suggests that this Abrahamic religion was considered the original by the refugees from the destruction of Jerusalem and that they considered the legalistic religion that emerged after the exile to be an illicit development

Immediately I thought of the division between the more legalistic Roman Rite and the more mystical Eastern Rite. What a parallel!

 

Here is a 16 minute video from the Christian artist Jonathan Pageau who has a You Tube channel called "The Symbolic World". Jonathan is a convert to Eastern Orthodoxy. In this recent video he goes into detail of How Christmas Reorganizes the Gods by the example of an Orthodox hymn called the Nativity Troparion. You will find it has everything to do with what we've read here. It will give a deeper understanding of what Fr. Longenecker is getting at. He didn't pluck any of this out of thin air.

 



Also, Jonathan had an hour-long conversation with Bishop Robert Barron on A Return to Cosmic Christianity. It dovetails nicely here.

 

My Reply to Kerstin:

Do you mean "legalistic" or more based on "reason" for the Roman Rite? There's faith and reason and one needs both. I do see the Eastern Rite as less based on reason and more on mysticism than the Latin Rite. But frankly too far to the mystical turns me off. It feels superstitious or disconnected from basic science. There needs to be a balance of faith and reason. I'm not sure the Latin Rite has it about right but whenever I listen to Eastern Rite speakers it feels like they are disconnected from reason. For me, Pope Benedict XVI has it perfectly.

 

By the way, by reason I don't mean to support Enlightenment rationalism as Fr. Barron denounces in the second video. There is a balance between faith and reason and an imbalance in either direction is disturbing.

Frances Replied to My Comment:

Manny, I am not trying to speak for Kerstin -- she can do that quite beautifully on her own! -- but as I read her post I thought of the word "transcendence." The Roman Rite has lost somewhat a sense of the transcendent; Bishop Robert Barron has referred to this condition at times as a "flattening out." I think the yearning for that sense lies behind the hunger for the Latin Mass. We want "The Other," a sense of the transcendent.

Kerstin Replied:

By "legalistic" I was thinking in the direction of splitting hairs too much, of overcomplicating things, being too rationalistic. Jesus fought the Pharisees on this all the time.

 

We are all products of our own culture, and hence the Roman Rite is what fits me, and I would imagine many of us here. At the same time I find the Eastern Rites fascinating, how they have preserved liturgical rituals and hymnody over the centuries. There is a very pronounced sense of reverence and the holy. I delight in their artistry. What I think is important for us to remember is that the Christian faith emerged in a cultural space that is far more eastern than we are. We may not be used to or comfortable with to move in the mystical space they do, but we have to know about it for better understanding. That's my take.

 

Going back to our book and the mystery of the star, Jonathan Pageau says that for the ancients and the cosmic order they lived in, a star and an angel is the same thing! The stars were the gods, or angels, or beings of the higher order. With this mystical element in mind, that a star/angel showed the Magi where to find Jesus makes perfect sense.

My Reply to Kerstin:

Well said Kerstin. I think we're saying the same thing. I lean toward Thomas Aquinas and Pope Benedict XVI who are just as mystical and transcendence but can support the mystery through reason. I'm not saying the Eastern Orthodox can't support it but I haven't seen it and in a number of places (like in writings of Dostoyevsky) I've seen ridicules of Latin reason. But Dostoyevsky is not a theologian, so I probably shouldn't link Orthodox theologians to him.

Joseph Replied:

Manny, if you haven't read St. Maximus the Confessor, he's a good example of how eastern theologians meld mysticism and reason. Weighing in on Kerstin, Frances, and Madeleine's point, as a priest who celebrates both the Mass of the Ages and the Mass of Paul VI there is a tangible difference in how the two relate to the Divine. My first time attending the Ancient Mass I was just as lost as could be, but as I was exposed to it more I learned how to enter into the prayer and see what goes on. This is not to discount the New Rite, I have also had mystical experiences there, but the Ancient Mass is more in tune with our mystical senses than is the New.

Kerstin Replied:

Manny wrote: " I'm not saying the Eastern Orthodox can't support it but I haven't seen it and in a number of places (like in writings of Dostoyevsky) I've seen ridicules of Latin reason. But Dostoyevsky is not a theologian, so I probably shouldn't link Orthodox theologians to him."

I had to think on this a bit. The divergence goes all the way back to the "filoque" dispute in the Nicean Creed. What exactly is Dostoevsky reacting to? He especially dislikes the Jesuits. I wonder if it had to do with modernism and even secularism seeping into the Latin Rite, and this posed a danger of Orthodoxy being susceptible to the same erosion of Tradition.

My Reply to Kerstin:

I don' think it has anything to do with the filioque. He was xenophobic, like a good number of Russians. Don't get me wrong, he's a great novelist, among the handful of greatest, but he was anti western, and that involved the Catholic Church. I remember a good number of gibes directed toward Poles and Germans. There is a section of his greatest novel, The Brothers Karamzov called The Grand Inquisitor. Read about that here: 

 

He has a Catholic Bishop put Jesus through an inquisition and ultimately condemns Jesus to death. Now there is a lot of psychological and theological stuff going on. It's a great scene. But he didn't have to have a Catholic Bishop be the inquisitor. It didn't have anything to do with Catholicism.

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When driving home yesterday afternoon from shopping, I had Relevant Radio, a Catholic radio channel around the country, on my radio and on the Drew Moriani show he had Fr. Dwight Longenecker on to discuss his Magi book. It was a twenty-ish minute conversation, and while he didn’t say anything that was not in the book, it was still a blessing to listen to it. Now that all radio shows get turned into podcasts, you can access the show and listen for yourself. So the Relevant Radio podcasts get broken into hour long units. Fr. Longenecker’s portion was the first half of the hour. The second half was a discussion about the guiding star with Fr. Chris Corbally, a priest astronomer. That was interesting and is worth listening to. Here is the link to the “Hour 3 of The Drew Mariani Show 12-22-21.”  

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Well, tomorrow Jan 6th is the Feast of the Epiphany of the Lord, the day we readers of this book have been waiting for. I'm almost sure you will have this hymn played at Mass tomorrow. It was my hymn for my Vespers prayer this evening, which would make it the vigil of the feast.

 

We Three Kings

Composer: Rev. John Henry Hopkin (‎1857)

 

We three kings of Orient are

Bearing gifts we traverse afar

Field and fountain, moor and mountain

Following yonder star.

 

O Star of wonder, star of night

Star with royal beauty bright

Westward leading, still proceeding

Guide us to thy Perfect Light.

 

Born a King on Bethlehem's plain

Gold I bring to crown Him again

King forever, ceasing never

Over us all to reign.

 

O Star of wonder, star of night

Star with royal beauty bright

Westward leading, still proceeding

Guide us to thy Perfect Light.

 

Frankincense to offer have I

Incense owns a Deity nigh

Prayer and praising, all men raising

Worship Him, God most high.

 

O Star of wonder, star of night

Star with royal beauty bright

Westward leading, still proceeding

Guide us to thy Perfect Light.

 

Myrrh is mine, its bitter perfume

Breathes of life of gathering gloom

Sorrowing, sighing, bleeding, dying

Sealed in the stone-cold tomb.

 

O Star of wonder, star of night

Star with royal beauty bright

Westward leading, still proceeding

Guide us to thy Perfect Light.

 

Glorious now behold Him arise

King and God and Sacrifice

Alleluia, Alleluia

Earth to heav'n replies.

 

O Star of wonder, star of night

Star with royal beauty bright

Westward leading, still proceeding

Guide us to thy Perfect Light.

Here is a beautiful version by the opera singer, Mario Lanza. 



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My Goodreads Review:

More precisely, four and a half stars.  This is a book that locates the historical roots of the story that has become the legend of the three “wise men/kings” who come to the nativity of Christ offering Him gifts.  Mind you, what is in the Bible, more precisely, the Gospel of Matthew, is not the legend.  The legend has been built up from elaborations and folklore, built up so much that hardly anyone believes the legend.  But the Biblical story is there in Matthew, and so what are we to make of it? 

Fr. Dwight Longenecker—the author is a Roman Catholic priest—breaks down the parts of what is actually in the Bible and finds their historical basis, and in so doing saves the story for we believers.  What seemed like a made up story made it real for me, and in that reality it deepened my faith. Truth be told, I'm not keen on hagiographic stories, including saints' lives.  The legend of the Magi went beyond hagiography. 

So Fr. Longenecker goes on to show the Magi were not from Persia or some disparate region of the world.  They were not kings.  And they probably didn’t even ride camels.  So who were these mysterious men who have been linked to the exotic?  Were they exotic?  Yes, but not in ways you expect.  Read the book.  It was methodically argued and quite compelling.

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This may be the final post on Fr. Longenecker’s book, but there will be two related posts on the Magi, two famous poems, T.S. Eliot’s “The Journey of the Magi” and G.K. Chesterton’s “The Wise Men.”  I will link them after I post them.




Tuesday, February 22, 2022

The Mystery of the Magi By Dwight Longenecker, Post #3

This is the third post of a series on Dwight Longenecker’s The Mystery of the Magi: The Quest to Identify the Three Wise Men.  You can read Post #1 here.  

Post #2 here. 

 


Summary

Chapter 3: “Fantastic Flights of Fantasy”

There is clearly a disconnect between the folk understanding of the Magi story and what is actually told in the Gospel of Matthew.  How did this come about?  Longenecker shows how the historical kernel found in the Gospel became legend and then myth through elaborations from (1) the Protoevangelium of James, (2) Clement of Alexandria’s linking the Magi to Persia, (3) the third century “The Legend of Aphroditianus,” (4) Gnostic writers associating the Magi as masters of hidden knowledge, (5) the stories and legends of the Magi created during the Middle Ages, and (6) the modern times iconic representations of Romanticized men of different races who came from the remote parts of the world.  And so we have the myth of three kings from different continents of various ages named Melchior, Caspar, and Balthasar who followed a magical star to bring gifts to the new born king of Israel.

Chapter 4: “Sages and Stargazers”

It was widely assumed that the Magi were from Persia.  What Matthew tells us is that they only came from the East.  Longenecker provides a history of the Middle Eastern civilizations to Christ and then also describes the evolution of a priest category of pagans that were called Magi within this Middle Eastern history.  Ultimately the Magi became part of the Zoroastrian culture and religion within Persia.  Steadily within the Persian royal court the Magi for various reasons declined in power and influence until Alexander the Great conquered Persia and the Magi were dispersed throughout the Middle East.  Eventually the Parthians took control of what was once Persia, which led to the dissolution of the Magi as having any power or wealth by the time of Christ.  And so Longenecker reaches the conclusion it is unlikely the Persian Magi were the visitors to Christ.

Chapter 5: “The Riddle of the Nabateans”

Longenecker gives a history of the Nabatean Kingdom and the nature of its people, fiercely independent and masters of trade on which they became extremely wealthy.  The Nabatean Kingdom ranged east of Israel on the Arabian Peninsula.  Originally nomadic traders in the sixth century BC, they settled around what is today city of Petra.  They had established trade routes across the Arabian Desert.  Longenecker identifies the pre-history of the Nabateans to the Edomites, an Arabean nomadic tribe that descended from the Biblical Abraham. 

When Jerusalem fell to Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC, Jews dispersed throughout the Arabian peninsula.  Because of the similarity between Judaism and the Nabatean religion, the two cultures intertwined and came to have mutual interests.

Chapter 6: “The Middle Eastern Melting Pot”

The gist of this chapter is in answering the question of why would the Magi, even if they had knowledge of a Jewish king being born in Bethlehem, why would they undergo a long journey to find him?  The answer is in that the Nabateans had cultural connections to Judaism.  Longenecker identifies King Nobonidus of the sixth century BC as having a special relationship with the Jews.  The Nabotean connection with Matthew’s Magi are important for several reasons.  (1) The Nabotean Kingdom and Judah were bordering nations.  (2) Large numbers of Jewish immigrants had integrated into the Nabotean Kingdom.  (3) The Nabotean Magi as religious figures had adopted religious elements from Judaism, and so had a religious motivation to knowing the divinely born king of the Jews. 

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My Comment:

Fascinating. I had no idea about some of these cultures east of Judea. My history of that time and place is very limited.

Joseph’s Reply:

When I went to the Holy Land we visited Petra and so I learned a little about the Nabateans that way, but the ins and outs of contemporary Parthian politics are something that I didn't have familiarity with. The most I remember learning directly was that the first triumvirate started to fall apart when Crassus lost a major battle to the Parthians somewhere in the Syrian desert, but that was a solid 50 years before the Magi.

Casey’s Comment:

I'm only through chapter 4 but what is striking to me, is how much information is encoded in our stories. In modernity, we dismiss a story as fiction because we are not well trained to decode.

 

Take a single word like Dog. A dog is made up of skeleton, muscle, fur, skin, teeth, eyes, etc. But an eye is also made up of composite parts... which are made up of composite parts... Now we don't say the idea of Dog is fiction. (Well some do, but not normal people) Dog is the reality - the meaning - of those assembled parts.

 

Stories, particularly fairy tales, folk tales, legends, are like that. Over time, thousands of bits of information get encoded and zipped into this story file that our brains can hold and process and transmit to others. It isn't whether the story is true or not but rather that the story is a container for truth. We all need to get better at being able to open that container and decode the contents, I think.

 

Although the book isn't presented as such, this is exactly what it is showing us.

My Reply to Joseph:

You know, I know the Crassus story very well but I never distinguished the civilization he was up against. I knew it was from East of the Arabian peninsula in what was in the lands of Persia. Even though I probably read Parthians, my mind conflated them with the Persians. I didn't realize until now they were two separate cultures, even though they came from the same territory.

My Reply to Casey:

I like the word encoded when it comes to the Bible, especially the New Testament. Because it comes after the Old Testament, the NT has so much integrated from its predecessor. In lterary terms, it would be called allusions. Certain words or phrases or actions allude to elsewhere so that one is reading with so much in mind simultaneously.

 

The perfect example are the Marian doctrines. I just finishing reading Brad Pitre's Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary: Unveiling the Mother of the Messiah. We all know the Marian doctrines but the rationale for them are difficult to see when just reading the NT in isolation. But they are all there, encoded, as you use the term, and perhaps I would say alluded to by careful word and phrase choice. What a great book that Pitre book is. I thought I knew all the rationales for the Marian doctrines, but I was shocked to see how much more there was. It would be wonderful and eye opening if we could read this book in the book club one day.

Casey’s Reply:

Think about when a grandfather tells his grandson a story and then many years later that grandson becomes a grandfather and tells that same story. Of course, he won't remember that childhood story word for word. Rather, he captures the essence of the story in the details he chooses. Some of those details would be the childhood impressions of the unspoken delivery of his own grandfather, which now become verbally expressed. This occurs generation after generation. Each generation recognizes it as the same story but the literal story itself keeps evolving until it is written and formalized.

 

To unpack every story would require a book like this one. But I believe if one learns to be tuned into a story, you can absorb the truth of it even if you can't articulate it. Something more obviously experienced when reading poetry for example.



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When driving home yesterday afternoon from shopping, I had Relevant Radio, a Catholic radio channel around the country, on my radio and on the Drew Moriani show he had Fr. Dwight Longenecker on to discuss his Magi book.  It was a twenty-ish minute conversation, and while he didn’t say anything that was not in the book, it was still a blessing to listen to it.  Now that all radio shows get turned into podcasts, you can access the show and listen for yourself.  So the Relevant Radio podcasts get broken into hour long units.  Fr. Longenecker’s portion was the first half of the hour.  The second half was a discussion about the guiding star with Fr. Chris Corbally, a priest astronomer.  That was interesting and is worth listening to.  Here is the link to the “Hour 3 of The Drew Mariani Show 12-22-21.”

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Summary

Chapter 7, “Prophesies or Predictions”

Here Longenecker explores whether the Magi visit to the Christ child are a fulfillment of an Ol Testament prophesy, as many events in Matthew’s Gospel.  First Longenecker provides distinguishing criteria between a prophesy—a supernatural glimpse into the future—and a prediction—a logical forecast based on common sense.  Longenecker address the prophesy and/or predictions of Balaam (Nu 24:17), the Wisdom tradition, the various chapters of the Book of Isaiah, and from texts from the Dead Sea scrolls.  Longenecker concludes that the Nabatean wise men must have been familiar with some of these prophesies.  

Chapter 8, “The Herod Connection”

Here Longenecker explores the context of Herod the Great to the Magi story.  First Longenecker provides the background as to how the Nabateans evolved from a nomadic culture to a settled civilization, tracing the melting pot of northern Arabian cultures in the sixth century BC.  By the first century BC, the Middle East was wrought with rival monarchies and civil wars.  The Hasmonean dynasty came to rule Judea as a sort of client king under the Rome.  Herod’s family traces roots to several of the northern Arabian cultures, and his mother was a Nabatean princess married to the neighboring ruler of Judea, Herod’s father Antipater.  Herod even spent a good deal of time raised at the Nabatean court when Antipater sent his wife and children to his wife’s family when a rival was looking to unseat Antipater.  Herod eventually took over as king of Judea through shrewd maneuverings between the Roman and Nabatean rivalry.  By the time of Jesus’ birth, the Nabateans were seeking the good graces of Herod and had every reason to send envoys to the King of Judea. 

Chapter 9, “The Three Treasures”

Here Longenecker provides the context and significance of the gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh given to the Christ child.  First Longenecker de-mythicizes the theological significance of gold for Christ’s kingship, frankincense for Christ’s priesthood, and myrrh for Christ’s sacrificial death.  While the three gifts carry such symbolism, it is more likely that they were selected because they were precious commodities found mostly in the Nabatean kingdom.  Longenecker also spends some space explaining the use of camels and the significance of homage and worship the Magi gave to the new born king.



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My Comment:

I think Fr. Longenecker has done a great job in researching all this and drawing very logical conclusions.

Casey Replied:

I find the argument compelling. I would be very interested to read some friendly counter-arguments. I wonder why these ideas aren't more commonplace.

My Reply to Casey:

I agree Casey. I think what Longenecker proposes is very likely. If you find any counter arguments, please post them here.

Casey Replied:

Well I guess the thing is that everyone just sweeps it away so I don't see any counter-arguments. In this interview, Fr. Longnecker himself admits he was surprised to find nobody had written this story prior to him. "Who were the Three Wise Men? A priest’s quest for the truth – Catholic World Report" https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/11/20/who-were-the-three-wise-men-a-priests-quest-for-the-truth/ Seems like a very basic, obvious, literal interpretation and nobody seems to have looked into it at all. Odd for a story that is so prominent in our imaginations.

My Reply to Casey:

Yes, it’s strange. It does require quite a bit of knowledge about the ancient world outside the Roman Empire. It’s probably not something a western scholar would delve to deeply. I had never heard of the Nabateans before. I think most took the easy answer and decided the Magi were Persian. The countries and cultures east of the Roman Empire are all a blur to most. Let’s be grateful for Longenecker’s investigation and conclusions.

Kerstin Commented on My Summary:

Manny wrote: "Here Longenecker provides the context and significance of the gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh given to the Christ child. First Longenecker de-mythicizes the theological significance of gold for Christ’s kingship, frankincense for Christ’s priesthood, and myrrh for Christ’s sacrificial death. While the three gifts carry such symbolism, it is more likely that they were selected because they were precious commodities found mostly in the Nabatean kingdom."

It is rather interesting. Though I would say we shouldn't overlook that this is one of these both/and situations. The commercial significance of the gifts became the theological and symbolic gifts once they came in contact with Christ.

My Reply to Kerstin:

I agree. The same thought came to me as I read it. I suspect Fr. Longenecker would agree too.