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Wednesday, August 28, 2024

Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis, Post #2

This is the second of a series of posts on Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis.

You can find Post #1 here.  

 


On the first post of Mere Christianity, I provided an overview, a summary of the five chapters of Book 1, and presented the discussion of Book 1.  I didn’t have the space to provide some notable quotes from Book 1.  I could have, but I don’t think super long posts lend to a reader friendliness.  So here are some quotes from the five chapters of Book 1 that I think are memorable.

 

From Chapter 1: The Law of Human Nature

 

Every one has heard people quarrelling. Sometimes it sounds funny and sometimes it sounds merely unpleasant; but however it sounds, I believe we can learn something very important from listening to the kind of things they say. They say things like this: “How’d you like it if anyone did the same to you?”—“That’s my seat, I was there first”—“Leave him alone, he isn’t doing you any harm”—“Why should you shove in first?” “Give me a bit of your orange, I gave you a bit of mine”—“Come on, you promised.” People say things like that every day, educated people as well as uneducated, and children as well as grown-ups.

 

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Now what interests me about all these remarks is that the man who makes them is not merely saying that the other man’s behaviour does not happen to please him. He is appealing to some kind of standard of behaviour which he expects the other man to know about. And the other man very seldom replies: “To hell with your standard.” Nearly always he tries to make out that what he has been doing does not really go against the standard, or that if it does there is some special excuse. He pretends there is some special reason in this particular case why the person who took the seat first should not keep it, or that things were quite different when he was given the bit of orange, or that something has turned up which lets him off keeping his promise. It looks, in fact, very much as if both parties had in mind some kind of Law or Rule of fair play or decent behaviour or morality or whatever you like to call it, about which they really agreed. And they have. If they had not, they might, of course, fight like animals, but they could not quarrel in the human sense of the word. Quarrelling means trying to show that the other man is in the wrong. And there would be no sense in 4trying to do that unless you and he had some sort of agreement as to what Right and Wrong are; just as there would be no sense in saying that a footballer had committed a foul unless there was some agreement about the rules of football.

 

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…a man could choose either to obey the Law of Human Nature or to disobey it.

 

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These, then, are the two points I wanted to make. First, that human beings, all over the earth, have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain way, and cannot really get rid of it. Secondly, that they do not in fact behave in that way. They know the Law of Nature; they break it. These two facts are the foundation of all clear thinking about ourselves and the universe we live in.

 

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From Chapter 2: Some Objections

 

(Objection from Instinct)

If the Moral Law was one of our instincts, we ought to be able to point to some one impulse inside us which was always what we call “good,” always in agreement with the rule of right ivilize. But you cannot. There is none of our impulses which the Moral Law may not sometimes tell us to suppress, and none which it may not sometimes tell us to encourage. It is a mistake to think that some of our impulses—say mother love or patriotism—are good, and others, like sex or the fighting instinct, are bad. All we mean is that the occasions on which the fighting instinct or the sexual desire need to be restrained are rather more frequent than those for restraining mother love or patriotism.

 

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(Objection from Social Convention)

There are two reasons for saying it belongs to the same class as mathematics. The first is, as I said in the first chapter, that though there are differences between the moral ideas of one time or country and those of another, the differences are not really very great—not nearly so great as most people imagine—and you can 11recognise the same law running through them all: whereas mere conventions, like the rule of the road or the kind of clothes people wear, may differ to any extent. The other reason is this. When you think about these differences between the morality of one people and another, do you think that the morality of one people is ever better or worse than that of another? Have any of the changes been improvements? If not, then of course there could never be any moral progress. Progress means not just changing, but changing for the better. If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring ivilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality.

 

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From Chapter 3: The Reality of the Law

 

The laws of nature, as applied to stones or trees, may only mean “what Nature, in fact, does.” But if you turn to the Law of Human Nature, the Law of Decent Behaviour, it is a different matter. That law certainly does not mean “what human beings, in fact, do”; for as I said before, many of them do not obey this law at all, and none of them obey it completely. The law of gravity tells you what stones do if you drop them; but the Law of Human Nature tells you what human beings ought to do and do not. In other words, when you are dealing with humans, something else comes in above and beyond the actual facts.

 

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From Chapter 4: What Lies Behind the Law

 

The Law of Human Nature, or of Right and Wrong, must be something above and beyond the actual facts of human behaviour. In this case, besides the actual facts, you have something else—a real law which we did not invent and which we know we ought to obey.

 

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The other view is the religious view.  According to it, what is behind the universe is more like a mind than it is like anything else we know. That is to say, it is conscious, and has purposes, and prefers one thing to another. And on this view it made the universe, partly for purposes we do not know, but partly, at any rate, in order to produce creatures like itself—I mean, like itself to the extent of having minds. Please do not think that one of these views was held a long time ago and that the other has gradually taken its place. Wherever there have been thinking men both views turn up.

 

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The position of the question, then, is like this. We want to know whether the universe simply happens to be what it is for no reason or whether there is a power behind it that makes it what it is. Since that power, if it exists, would be not one of the observed facts but a reality which makes them, no mere observation of the facts can find it. There is only one case in which we can know whether there is anything more, namely our own case. And in that one case we find there is. Or put it the other way round. If there was a controlling power outside the universe, it could not show itself to us as one of the facts inside the universe—no more than the architect of a house could actually be a wall or staircase or fireplace in that house. The only way in which we could expect it to show itself would be inside ourselves as an influence or a command trying to get us to behave in a certain way.

 

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From Chapter 5: We have Cause to be Uneasy

 

We have not yet got as far as the God of any actual religion, still less the God of that particular religion called Christianity. We have only got as far as a Somebody or Something behind the Moral Law. We are not taking anything from the Bible or the Churches, we are trying to see what we can find out about this Somebody on our own steam. And I want to make it quite clear that what we find out on our own steam is something that gives us a shock.

 

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Now, from this second bit of evidence we conclude that the Being behind the universe is intensely interested in right conduct—in fair play, unselfishness, courage, good faith, honesty and truthfulness. In that sense we should agree with the account given by Christianity and some other religions, that God is “good.” But do not let us go too fast here. The Moral Law does not give us any grounds for thinking that God is “good” in the sense of being indulgent, or soft, or sympathetic. There is nothing indulgent about the Moral Law. It is as hard as nails. It tells you to do the straight thing and it does not seem to care how painful, or dangerous, or difficult it is to do. If God is like the Moral Law, then He is not soft.

 

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Christianity simply does not make sense until you have faced the sort of facts I have been describing. Christianity tells people to repent and promises them forgiveness. It therefore has nothing (as far as I know) to say to people who do not know they have done anything to repent of and who do not feel that they need any forgiveness. It is after you have realised that there is a real Moral Law, and a Power behind the law, and that you have broken that law and put yourself wrong with that Power—it is after all this, and not a moment sooner, that Christianity begins to talk.

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Finally I really like this summary of C. S. Lewis and his work from Bishop Robert Barron, put out on YouTube on the 50th anniversary of Lewis’s death.

 



Friday, August 16, 2024

Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis, Post #1

This is the first of a series of posts on Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis.

Some six months ago, the Catholic Thought Book Club read C. S. Lewis’s Mere Christianity.  Clive Staples Lewis (1898 – 1963) was a novelist and Christian apologist from Oxford University and was highly influential in the Catholic revival in England.  Now Lewis was not a Catholic but he must have been a High Church Anglican because he shares close to a Catholic worldview.  He was friends with J. R. R. Tolkien, who was Catholic, and they were part of a group at Oxford made up of Catholics and Protestants who called themselves the Inklings.  The Inklings shared their writings and critiqued each other.  While Tolkien was known for his Lord of the Rings, Lewis was known for his Chronicles of Narnia series, his science fiction novels, and his works of apologetics. 

Mere Christianity was initially an explanation of the faith to the British public over a series of BBC radio broadcasts during the World War II years of 1941 to 1944.  The book does not delve into the areas where Christian sects might disagree, but explain the fundamentals of why there is a God and why the Christian understanding of that God makes the most sense.  After the BBC broadcasts, Lewis compiled the discussions and published it as a book after the war in 1953.  The book is divided into four “Books,” each having a number of chapters.  The total number of chapters add up to thirty-three.  Here is the table of contents.


Preface

BOOK I. RIGHT AND WRONG AS A CLUE TO THE MEANING OF THE UNIVERSE

1.The Law of Human Nature

2.Some Objections

3.The Reality of the Law

4.What Lies Behind the Law

5.We Have Cause to be Uneasy

BOOK II. WHAT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE

1.The Rival Conceptions of God

2.The Invasion

3.The Shocking Alternative

4.The Perfect Penitent

5.The Practical Conclusion

BOOK III. CHRISTIAN BEHAVIOUR

1.The Three Parts of Morality

2.The “Cardinal Virtues”

3.Social Morality

4.Morality and Psychoanalysis

5.Sexual Morality

6.Christian Marriage

7.Forgiveness

8.The Great Sin

9.Charity

10.Hope

11.Faith

12.Faith

BOOK IV. BEYOND PERSONALITY: OR FIRST STEPS IN THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY

1.Making and Begetting

2.The Three-personal God

3.Time and Beyond Time

4.Good Infection

5.The Obstinate Toy Soldiers

6.Two Notes

7.Let’s Pretend

8.Is Christianity Hard or Easy?

9.Counting the Cost

10.Nice People or New Men

11.The New Men

The book is structured as (1) why there is a God, (2) what Christians believe about that God, (3) moral behavior as a result of that God, and (4) the nature of this God.

If you wish to read Mere Christianity online, you can access it for free in several different formats here.  

I’m going to summarize the major sections and highlights and present some of our conversation it proves enlightening.

Summary

Book I

Chapter 1: The Law of Human Nature

There is a universal law of human nature—the law of right and wrong—and we intuitively know this law even if we fail to follow it.

Chapter 2: Some Objections

Objections to this moral law include the law as an innate instinct, and the law as a social convention; neither are satisfactory explanations.

Chapter 3: The Reality of the Law

The law of right and wrong is not a law we all follow, but a law we all know we ought to follow it.

Chapter 4: What Lies Behind the Law

Men find themselves under this moral law, a law they did not make but know they ought to obey.

Chapter 5: We Have Cause to be Uneasy

The moral law could only have been put in us by something outside of humanity, that is, God.

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I was impressed with how systematic Lewis was in Book 1. Each chapter built on the previous. I could see it as stepping toward his conclusion. I put this together as to what I thought the steps through Book 1 consisted.  I think it could serve as a summary:


Steps through Book 1:

 

There is an inherent human nature of the moral law.

 

This moral law cannot be explained by the two objections of instinct and of social convention.

 

The law of human nature is verified across humanity.

 

There are only two views of understanding the universe, the materialist view—that is of chance—and the religious view—that is of a creator God outside the universe.

 

The existence of the moral law within man points to something beyond the materialist view of the universe.

 

The existence of the moral law within man points to a “Somebody or a Something behind the moral law.

 

That Something or Somebody is the Christian concept of God in that it asks us to repent and promises forgiveness. 

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My Comment:

I just finished Book 1 and found this fascinating. Unlike Thomas Aquinas, CS Lewis does not start with the first cause argument for God. He starts with the moral law written in human nature argument, and I have to admit I found it powerful. There are so many places I would like to highlight, but let me limit it to this paragraph from chapter 4. I'll break up the paragraph because it's kind of large.

 

Ever since men were able to think, they have been wondering what this universe really is and how it came to be there. And, very roughly, two views have been held. First, there is what is called the materialist view. People who take that view think that matter and space just happen to exist, and always have existed, nobody knows why; and that the matter, behaving in certain fixed ways, has just happened, by a sort of fluke, to produce creatures like ourselves who are able to think. By one chance in a thousand something hit our sun and made it produce the planets; and by another thousandth chance the chemicals necessary for life, and the right temperature, occurred on one of these planets, and so some of the matter on this earth came alive; and then, by a very long series of chances, the living creatures developed into things like us.

 

The other view is the religious view. According to it, what is behind the universe is more like a mind than it is like anything else we know. That is to say, it is conscious, and has purposes, and prefers one thing to another. And on this view it made the universe, partly for purposes we do not know, but partly, at any rate, in order to produce creatures like itself—I mean, like itself to the extent of having minds. Please do not think that one of these views was held a long time ago and that the other has gradually taken its place. Wherever there have been thinking men both views turn up.

 

 

It had never occurred to that all views of the universe conflate to one of the two. It has always been so. By the way, he shoots down the hybrid view pretty easily. Yes, that's silly

Casey Replied:

A bit of a quibble, Manny. Lewis doesn't shoot down the hybrid view exactly but shuts down those who reject the implications. There's a sense in which the hybrid idea is exactly right. Creation is always emerging, striving, evolving but it is truly doing so, not randomly and conveniently so. It actually strives with purpose and intent. Purpose and intent are sort of outside-in. They can't be explained simply by atoms crashing into atoms. A turtle strives for the lettuce. Atoms don't bump together in a way that appears to be a turtle striving for lettuce.

 

The idea that there's a bunch of stuff randomly appearing to aim a single something which doesn't exist is where it gets silly.

My Reply to Casey:

Well, wait a second. This is what Lewis says exactly:

 

People who hold this view say that the small variations by which life on this planet “evolved” from the lowest forms to Man were not due to chance but to the “striving” or “purposiveness” of a Life-Force. When people say this we must ask them whether by Life-Force they mean something with a mind or not. If they do, then “a mind bringing life into existence and leading it to perfection” is really a God, and their view is thus identical with the Religious. If they do not, then what is the sense in saying that something without a mind “strives” or has “purposes”? This seems to me fatal to their view.

 

It seems like he's shooting it down to me. I think somewhere in Book I Lewis supported evolution, so he's not against evolution per se.

Casey Replied to Me:

Let me try this analogy.... If an arrow is flying through the air toward a target this implies a shooter. Let's say an "atheist" position would be 'not necessarily.' The Life-Force position would be yes there is a force behind the motion of the arrow that we might call a shooter but not necessarily a mind. A "Theist" position would be that there must be a shooter with a mind because it is the mind that creates the target.

 

Once you accept that the arrow has a target (an aim, a purpose) then you must accept the implication of a mind. If you reject the mind behind the motion then you must reject the idea of the target.

 

The reason for my quibble is that the Theist hybridizes by accepting both the mechanical, emergent elements and the mindful elements simultaneously. The Life-Forcer is hybridizing both to try to keep one foot in each camp but it doesn't work. You must accept the implications in full. It is the rejection of the implications that's problematic.

My Reply to Casey:

Actually Casey, I think we agree. I'm saying the hybrid is problematic too. And so is Lewis. Anyway, I love your analogy with the arrow. That is a great visual to capture the movement of life and the universe.

Casey’s Reply to Me:

Oh yes, we agree but I feel it is important to make the distinction about the implications because I think for decades Christians have been so engaged with atheists they've neglected the in-betweeners which is a category that has grown enormously. Probably because the waters have been muddied so much by the Christian-atheist jibber-jabber.

Madeleine’s Comment:

For me the strongest argument for God is that no one has ever been able to answer how it is possible that anything, living or not, especially human beings with intellect and abilities and a free will, is able to exist in the first place.

My Reply to Madeleine:

That is also from Aquinas. You can read about the five ways or proofs of God from Aquinas here.  

 

I agree with you Madeleine. That is the argument that holds the most weight for me too. But I can understand how Lewis starts with the innate moral law argument. Since Aquinas science has been so far advanced that most people in the last 200 years think science can answer everything. If they don't currently have an answer to how something started from nothing, they expect that some day science will. I've actually had this come up in a debate with atheists. They argue like this: "Just because we currently don't know doesn't mean some magic God did it; science will eventually figure it out."

 

The innate moral law I think still has holes. I'm not sure he satisfactorily answered the objection to social conventions. It does seem to me that various cultures have different perspectives as to what is morally acceptable. Other cultures might not agree on a Christian moral universe. But I don't know.

Kerstin Replied to Me:

Manny wrote: " If they don't currently have an answer to how something started from nothing, they expect that some day science will.

That's scientism. I know they don't see it, but we're crossing the line between the physical and metaphysical. The natural sciences, shortened today into "science", can only show us what you can see and measure according the the physical realities of this universe. If you take all matter away and with it all laws governing matter, science becomes obsolete.

I've actually had this come up in a debate with atheists. They argue like this: "Just because we currently don't know doesn't mean some magic God did it; science will eventually figure it out."
The infamous "God of the gaps" argument. Once we find the "God particle" science will explain everything. ;-)

Frances Comment:

These thoughts of Benedict XVI when he was the young theology professor Joseph Ratzinger expand on the religious view: “Finite being, as we experience it, is marked, through and through, by intelligibility, that is to say, by a formal structure that makes it understandable to an inquiring mind. In point of fact, all of the sciences rest on the assumption that at all levels, microscopic and microcosmic, being can be known. . . The only finally satisfying explanation for this universal objective intelligibility is a great Intelligence who has thought the universe into being. Our language provides an intriguing clue in this regard, for we speak of our acts of knowledge as moments of ‘recognition,’ literally a re-cognition, a thinking again what has already been thought. ‘’

 

(Bishop Robert Barron, Catholicism, Image Books, pages 67-68)

Kerstin’s Reply to Frances:

The argument of intelligibility is simply brilliant.