"Love follows knowledge."
"Beauty above all beauty!"
– St. Catherine of Siena

Saturday, January 16, 2021

Catherine of Siena by Sigrid Undset, 2nd Read, Post #4

This is the fourth post on the second read of Sigrid Unset’s Catherine of Siena. 

You can find Post #1 here.  

Post #2 here.  

Post #3 here



Chapter 9

Another transition in her life now occurs, going from corporal works of mercy to spiritual works of mercy.  This chapter outlines Catherine’s conversions of men who go from lives of sin and lack of faith, to repentance, conversion, and a death that is in a state of grace.  Her extended spiritual family—her devoted followers—continued to grow as she becomes an important part of Sienese life.

Chapter 10

Undset provides the historical background as to why the Popes had moved to Avignon, and the attempts to persuade the Pope to return to Rome by St. Catherine’s predecessor, St. Bridget of Sweden. 

Chapter 11

As Catherine’s growing influence makes her more sought after, her band of followers, the “Caterinati” also grows, attracting educated and nobility, religious and secular, and most especially sinners, those who want to be converted and those who convert against their initial wishes.  Her charismatic personality and her powerful spiritual insight convert many a sinner.

Chapter 12

By 1372, Catherine’s influence had grown across Italy.  Her letters now went to Cardinals and princes of city-states concerning major political issues of the day, including wars between states.  And these heads of states sought her advice, not just through letters but by sending ambassadors to Siena to reach her in person.  The Seraphic Virgin of Siena even endorsed global policies such as a crusade against Islam, though it was never taken up.

Chapter 13

In 1374 Catherine and her followers went to Florence on one of her missions to bring peace between warring families, and there met her future biographer and most important confessor, Blessed Raimondo of Capua.  That year the Bubonic Plague would return with a vengeance and strike down a third of Siena.  Catherine worked tirelessly to care for the ill and bury the dead, including performing several miracles.  After the plague had subsided, Catherine and her band made a pilgrimage to Montepulciano to venerate the body and relics of St. Agnes of Montepulciano.  There a miracle occurred where when Catherine went to kiss the foot of the dead woman, Agnes lifted her foot for Catherine.


My Comment:

This morning in my email feed I got an inspirational quote that happened to be from St. Catherine. Let me share it:


"We've had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence."

-St. Catherine of Siena


With all the craziness that is going on in the world, St. Catherine is so on the mark.


My Reply to Irene:

Irene wrote: "This section made me curious about St. Birgita. I find it fascinating how often the lives of saints overlap."

I was thinking similar on Blessed Raimondo of Capua the other night. He’s not a full saint (canonized) but still a blessed. Other than his relationship to St. Catherine, I realized I know nothing about him.


My Reply to Gerri:

Gerri wrote: "I also like how Undset says the Caterinati were eager to give witness to not only Catherine's power and piety, but also to her "holy gaiety." I love that - holy gaiety.

Yes holy gaiety! This was my mission with this book, to get that across. Because what people remember about Catherine's personality is her severe asceticism, people assume she was stern and dour. She was stern but definitely not dour. What people need to realize about her was her bubbly personality. She was gay (in the old sense of the word) and joyful and playful. She attracted the huge Caterinati because of her personality. There are lots of devout people around, but there are few people where you want to be around them all the time. She made being devout fun!


What really puzzles me in these sections is how she went from an obscure little religious woman who did good works about town to being sought after by the highest nobility in Italy. Think about it. She comes out of her cell as a complete unknown, starts doing good works of mercy about town, starts leading people to repentance through spiritual acts of mercy, starts engaging in what I’ll call conflict resolutions about Siena, is then sought after to resolve more conflicts by powerful, and then ultimately goes to Siena’s rival city of Florence to resolve a dispute between the heads of Florence, Siena, Milan, Pisa, and I think the Papacy. That is quite a jump for an unknown woman who is not part of the aristocracy. Here’s how I piece together the timeline for those years.

1347 Birth, age 0

1363-66 Lives in her cell, age 16-19

1366 Becomes Third Order Dominican, age 19

1367 Exits her cell and starts good works, age 20

1368 Her father dies, age 21

1370 Starts Engaging in Conflict Resolution, age 23

1372 Is Sought By the Powerful for Resolutions, age 25

1374 Travels to Florence for a Peace Mission, age 27

How does a young woman go from what we today might classify as a nurse’s aide (not even a nurse) to resolving conflicts between Dukes and Cardinals in four to six years? Undset does her best to show the leap, but details would be fascinating. What were these Dukes and Cardinals thinking? Why her? What specifically did she do to gain that trust? I guess that is lost to the silence of history. But I find that astonishing.

My Reply to Irene, who did not find it astonishing that Catherine got so popular:

I can understand that Irene. Yes, her miracles may have opened people's eyes, but I guess the main part of my point was the connection between the dots, so to speak, has been lost to the silence. Why did this particular ruler decide to trust in her over this particular miracle. The connection between miracle or whatever it was that was persuasive and powerful figure has been lost.


I did imply a certain minimizing of her person in my comment. My exact words were "an obscure little religious woman." I hope you didn't think me sexist for that. I was merely placing her in the context of medieval society. She was not aristocratic and she was not educated. She didn't even have a powerful husband. There would be nothing about her for the powerful of her day to take note.


I'm also skeptical that the miracles could have persuaded many. I'm afraid miracles don't persuade many people. Look at it in our era. Take Padre Pio, a man who was known to bi-locate, read people's souls, and have the visible stigmata. You would think the whole world would be rushing to become Catholic. But even our own Church doubted him for a long time. Blessed Solanus Casey (is he a saint now?) was long associated with miracles, and has the United States rushed to become Catholic? Who was it that said (Dostoyevsky? or is it in the New Testament?) that despite the miracle of parting the Red Sea, the Israelites lost faith in Moses? Anyway it's also in Psalm 106. People will have miracles performed right in front of their eyes and they will not attribute to the divine. Actually look at Fatima and the miracle of the sun. How many hundreds of people witnessed it? You would think because of that the world would be rushing to become Catholic. You would think Catholics would be rushing to be Catholic. No, I'm afraid miracles don't necessarily lead to conversion and discipleship.

My Reply to Irene who said people like Catherine were the superstars of the Middle Ages:

Well argued Irene. Yes, it's possible. It's still over a very short time, only four years. Her fame really exploded for her to be sought outside of Siena. And there was no mass communication for word to get around. Perhaps it was through her letters. I'm not sure Undset makes enough of her letters. They span all levels of society. If I remember correctly 380-ish letters survive, which I think she wrote over ten years. They are really remarkable and lend real insight into her person and thought. You can find free editions on the internet, though they were translated over 100 years ago. Perhaps if I can identify the ten or so most interesting we can do them as a short read at some point.

Gerri Reply to those previous comments:

One more thing that may have contributed to Catherine's reputation: the political activity of her brothers. They were highly active and right in the thick of the region's political feuds. Word of Catherine may have spread via both their supporters and detractors.


I, too, was surprised at first when I read that highly placed figures were seeking her out. On page 158:


".. when Bernabo Visconti sent ambassadors to Siena to see if he could win the goodwill of the Republic in his dispute with the Pope, he gave them orders to make contact with the dyer's daughter, and if possible to get her support."


Could a saintly and beloved Sienese's support influence the local power brokers and her own immediate family? Something to think about. I think her reputation grew from a combination of what you both said, Manny and Irene, with perhaps some help from Italian family culture.


Side note: I'd love to read some of Catherine's letters. I never know where to start, though. Manny, I'd welcome your input but no rush. I've still got half of our book to read.

My Reply to Gerri:

That is a very good point Gerri. It's quite possible and as I was saying again lost to history I'm afraid.


I will pick a couple of Catherine's letters Gerri and link them here.


Also if you get Magnificat magazine, almost every month they include an excerpt from one of her letters as a meditation on a Gospel reading.



Oh! I as just looking ahead to EWTN's upcoming programing, and as part of their All Saints Day lineup, they will have an hour long show on St. Catherine of Siena. Here's the brief show description:

"Take a tour through 14th century Italy to experience the life and writings of St. Catherine of Siena in this EWTN original docudrama, filled with incredible interviews and dramatic reenactments."

It's at 2 PM and for 60 minutes. Check your local time. It doesn't mention time zone. So Sunday, November 1st


Chapter 14

Catherine is now engaged in diplomatic efforts of a number of Italian City-States, advocating peace among themselves and the papacy and joining together for another crusade against Islam.  While in the city of Pisa, where she stayed for quite a while, Catherine experiences the full stigmata.  It is at this time in 1374 that Catherine’s letter writing dramatically increases, and while returning home from Pisa she writes her first letter to Pope Gregory XI.  As she returned home, Catherine found out that most of the Tuscan City-States aligned together against the papacy.

Chapter 15

Much to Catherine’s dismay, Pope Gregory in his obstinacy entrenches himself further against the Tuscan City-States.  Catherine writes several letters to the Holy Father imploring mercy toward the towns, but in his petulancy the Pope sent an army to capture Bologna and Casena, where men were massacred and women raped.  In the meanwhile, Catherine resolved a local Sienese conflict where a young man, Stefano Maconi, would become her most devoted “son.”  The Florentines, now under a humiliating interdict from the Pope, agreed to Catherine’s offer to act as a mediator in this dispute.

Chapter 16

Catherine arrives in Avignon in mid-June and will spend the entire summer there, leaving in mid-September.  While there, the Holy Father she has several conversations with the Holy Father, meets the vast papal court and entourage, and wins over most, including the Holy Father himself.  The Pope agrees to a peace with Florence, but the Florentines actually reject the offer.  By the end of the summer, Pope Gregory XI, so smitten with her holiness, decides to follow Catherine’s advice and return the papacy back to Rome.  He takes up the court and moves leaves for Rome two days after Catherine departed.

Chapter 17

On the journey back home, Catherine was bombarded with admirers.  It took longer than expected because of the plague encountered, both to her entourage and in the various cities they stopped.  Catherine’s letter writing, however, continued on a remarkable pace.  During her stay in Genoa, the Pope, masquerading as an ordinary priest surprised her by stopping at her dwelling.  On his way to Rome, Gregory XI was weakening from his decision and needed Catherine’s support.  Catherine once again inspired the Pope to make the courageous and historic decision.

Chapter 18

As the Pope in 1377 arrives in Rome, Catherine finally arrives home to Siena.  She continues her letter writing especially one imploring prisoners to come to the faith.  She meets a particular young man, Niccolò di Toldo who was bitter and unforgiving over his sentence of death.  Catherine through her personality go him to repent, take communion, and bravely walk to his execution with her by his side.  She knelt by him and caught his head when it was severed.


One of those incredible passages is the moment she receives the stigmata.  It’s worth transcribing.

But the most overwhelming event in Catherine’s life while she was in Pisa was that she was marked with Christ’s stigmata.  Raimondo describes the event as he saw it.


On Laetare Sunday—mid-Lent Sunday—he celebrated Mass in the church of St. Christina and had given Catherine Holy Communion.  She lay on her face for a long while afterwards without moving.  Raimondo and her friends waited patiently—they hoped that when she awoke from her ecstasy she would have a message for them from the lips of her Bridegroom.  Suddenly it was as though the outstretched figure was lifted up; she knelt with closed eyes and her face shining with supernatural bliss.  She stretched out her arms, with the palms of her hands outward, stiff and still: then she fell suddenly to the ground as though mortally wounded.  A little while after, she recovered consciousness.


Some time later she called Raimondo to her and whispered: “Father, know that by the grace of our lord Jesus I now bear His stigmata in my body.”  Raimondo had guessed by her movements what had happened, but he asked her to describe the manner in which the gift of grace had been given her.  “I saw Our Savior on the cross lean down toward me in a bright light.  And when my soul tried to hasten to meet its creator, it forced my body to rise.  Then I saw how five jets of blood came from the five wounds and streamed toward my miserable body.  I cried out, ‘O my Lord and Savior.  I beg You, do not let the wounds on my body be visible outwardly’—and while I spoke the jets of blood changed to shining light, and as the rays of light they struck my hands, feet, and heart.” (p. 180)


It is amazing there was a witness at the time and recorded what happened and her understanding of it. 


My Reply to Joseph:

Joseph wrote: "It's also pretty amazing just how active her contemplative life became. We had a retreat master a couple of years ago emphasize that our work is not our prayer, our prayer is our work. There's a pretty strong emphasis among our faculty that we need to be rooted in prayer before we can effectively carry out the active ministries of priesthood and I think in these chapters St. Catherine models that relationship brilliantly."

Well, she's Dominican you know.

My Reply to Gerri:

Gerri wrote: "Manny, I remember you mentioned in an earlier comment about Catherine's support of a Crusade. Her strong belief in that cause came through clearly to me in these chapters and surprised me a little. Then I realized how she saw a crusade as a means to unify the warring Christian factions against a common foe."

Yes, that was the immediate need for the crusade but she also said it would convert the Muslims for God. I think that was rather naïve on her part.

My Reply to Gerri:

Gerri wrote: "To everyone interested in Catherine of Siena: Learn25.com is having a sale on certain items, including a course on Catherine of Siena. I just ordered the Audio CD for $6.95. Of course, they got me ..."

Gerri, I have that course. It's presented by Sr. Suzanne Noffke who is probably the world's leading scholar on St. Catherine of Siena. She has written and edited many books on St. Catherine. Here is her Goodreads page:

When I first listened to the course, I didn't at first particularly fall in love with it. It took several listens over a span of time to warm up to them. It seemed like Noffke brought in too much of her own life to the lectures for my taste and it didn't seem like she got to the heart of Catherine's ideas. This would not be a starter course on St. Catherine, but now that you will have read this biography I think you might not feel lost.

My Reply to Gerri:

Gerri wrote: "Oh, boy, thanks for that insight, Manny. I'm not a big fan of authors bringing their own life into lectures/biographies. I'm there to learn about the subject, not the author. Especially with a pers..."

Yes, I know what you mean. Some of those Lear25 courses are disappointing. I don't want to give the impression that the St. Catherine of Siena course is one of those disappointing ones. It's not. It's just organized in a manner I did not expect, and so was a little disconcerting. And Sr. Suzanne is not a dynamic speaker. But in time I grew to understand her and appreciate her course. I recommend it. Let me know what you think.

My Comment:

Also, the EWTN documentary of St. Catherine today was excellent! I enjoyed it and they got to the heart of her life and thought. The visual images of the locale was great. I think for those that are mid way through the book, you know enough about her for the documentary to resonate, I think the book enriched the documentary and the documentary enriched the book.



One of the often cited instances of Catherine’s life is her giving comfort to Niccolò di Toldo as he went to his execution.  I had forgotten some of the details.  I had forgotten that Catherine actually narrated this event to Raimondo, so we have Catherine’s actual take on the whole incident.  First I was shocked he was condemned to death because he had spoken derisively of Siena.  He came from a rival town and was of the nobility of that rival town.  I guess that must have all added up to a death penalty in those days.  And he was bitter, and refused to reconcile himself with God: “He was wild with rage and despair over the crazy justice of this wretched government who want to take his life over such a trifle” (p. 224).  She describes the meeting:


You know I went to visit him, and he gained such great strength and power that he made his confession in the right state of mind.  He made me promise for the sake of God’s love I would be with him when the day of execution came, and I promised.  The next day before the bells rang for the first time, I went to him, and that consoled him greatly.  I went with him to Mass, and he received Holy Communion, which he had always avoided.  His will was one with God’s holy will and submitted to it.  He was only afraid of one thing—that his courage would fail in the crucial moment.  But God’s immeasurable goodness fired such love and longing in him that he could not have enough of God’s presence.  He said, Say with me, do not go from me and I will be good, I will die happy.  And he leaned his head against my breast.  I was filled with joy, for it seemed to me that the perfume of his blood mixed itself with mine which I long to be able to pour out for my beloved Bridegroom Jesus.  (p. 225-6)

Three things I would like to highlight in that passage.  Catherine’s power to charm is noticeable in all her encounters with people, be they religious people, regular people, Popes, or a young man who is facing execution.  We don’t get the details of what she said that caused him to go from a wild and bitter man to one who was willing to “die happy.”  This is one of the things that is so memorable about Catherine, her charisma, her charm.

Second, her amazing poetic descriptions: “it seemed to me that the perfume of his blood mixed itself with mine which I long to be able to pour out for my beloved Bridegroom Jesus.”  Notice the compact series of images in that one sentence.  Blood has a perfumed aroma?  What a leap that is.  And she envisions the aroma (as a sort of ether) of Niccolò’s blood somehow mixing with the ether of her blood, and the two bloods mixed into one is poured out for Christ.  I haven’t been able to highlight much of her language, but this sort of intense imagery runs throughout her writing.  She really was a natural poet.

Third, the blood.  Blood is one of her central symbols: the blood of Christ that washes away sin, and the blood of our humanity, which is somehow supernaturally connected with the divine.  I can’t pin it down—it would take a systematic study—but for Catherine it’s as if our human blood is our link to God.  And why not?  Christ in His incarnation had blood in His veins, blood that would be shed.  That image of mixing of blood looks ahead to Niccolò’s execution.


Niccolò came, peaceful as a lamb, and he smiled when he saw that Catherine stood there waiting for him.  He asked her to make the sign of the cross over him, and she whispered to him: “My dear brother, let us go to the eternal marriage feast, to enjoy life which shall never end.”  She bared his throat, and when he laid his head on the block she knelt beside him.  He said nothing but “Jesus, Catherine,” and then his head fell into her hands.


Then I fastened my eyes upon the Divine Goodness and said: I will.  Immediately I saw, as clearly as one sees the sunshine, Him who is God and Man.  He was there, He received the blood.  In this blood was the fire of holy desire which grace had put into his soul, and this fire was swallowed up in the fire of God’s mercy.”  She saw that Niccolò was as though drawn into the treasure chamber of mercy, his pierced heart into Christ’s breast, so the great truth was made clearly apparent—that Christ receives a soul entirely because of His mercy, and not because of any merits of the soul itself.  But as the soul of Niccolò entered the mystery of the Holy Trinity it turned and looked at her, as the bride does when she has come to the house of her bridegroom and with bowed head acknowledges those who have accompanied her, as a last sign of gratitude.  (226-7)


Can you imagine the amount of blood that must have splattered on her?  And as she held on to the dripping head?  What a mess, but that blood is so significant to her.  Blood and fire and holy desire and treasure chamber of mercy—there’s a lot of theology there.  Too much for here, and I’m not sure I can tie it all up together.  But this is why she was made a Doctor of the Church.  She connects Catholic doctrine—she never creates or distorts doctrine as some modern theologians—in a way that is original to her and is meaningful to us.  I would love to have listened to her preach.

And kudos to Sigrid Undset for a beautiful description and integration of Catherine’s words.


My Reply to Several on Gender Restrictions that St. Catherine may have faced:

I'm sure there were many gender restrictions but why would there be one on speaking with a prisoner? I don't follow that. Plus she may have had one or more of her followers alongside, so she wouldn't have been alone with him.

As I think of it, I'm surprised they let her stay beside him as the decapitated him, and not because of her gender. I can't imagine that being common.

My Reply to Kerstin:

Kerstin wrote: "I tend to think that women in the Middle Ages had far more freedoms then we give them credit for. According to history-Prof. Christopher Bellito, who did a few lecture series on Learn 25/Now You Kn..."

I suspect that is true. The thought has crossed my mind, but I don't have any expertise to know.

Sunday, January 10, 2021

Personal Note: Tiger’s Surgery

Our little cat Tiger had to have emergency surgery this week.  I wrote about how we found him as a kitten beside our house almost five years ago and took him in.  About a week ago we noticed he was acting strange.  He was hiding and not eating much.  Then I noticed his litter box did not have the usual clumps that would indicate he peed.  Finally after about four days and watching him struggle in the litter box, on Monday we got him to a veterinarian.  They said his urethra was blocked from crystals and grit coming from his bladder.  Apparently this is a not an unusual problem for male cats, especially if they have been neutered. 

The vet put a catheter in to relieve the bladder.  Any longer he might have died from kidney failure.  They cleaned the urethra and assessed to see him urinate.  The ultrasound showed a lot of grit still in his bladder.  Within a day his urethra was blocked again, and the only alternative was surgery.  He was then transported to an animal hospital where this would be done.  (Don’t ask what this all cost.)

I’m not exactly sure what the surgery specifically did but as I understand it they opened up his urethra and reconstructed it so it’s wider.  Sounds painful!  My friend and I joked he was getting a sex change.  ;)  No, that’s mean. 

Today we got him back home.  He has been so affectionate.  He’s purring and constantly rubbing up against us.  He is so happy to be home.  I’m sure he didn’t know what was happening nor where he was.  Here are some pictures.  He has to wear a cone so he doesn’t disturb the area of concern. 


He peed right away as soon as he got home.  He must have been holding it in from the one hour ride back from the hospital. 


He hasn't gotten used to the cone.  He's been bumping up against everything with it.  He will have to wear it for three weeks.  



He’s definitely lost a little weight but he’s been eating and he even took his pain med.  We’re happy to have him home.

Wednesday, January 6, 2021

Utopia by St. Thomas More, Part 3

This is the third post in a series on St. Thomas More’s Utopia. 

You can find the first post here.

Second post here


As I look at More’s key life experiences prior to the writing Utopia, you can connect a number of the subjects he brings up in the book to his life.  He brings up the Utopians’ religion and rituals; he lived a good deal of his life with religious clerics and even at a monastery.  He brings up the Utopians’ organization of towns and population; he was a member of parliament and presumably charged with the responsibility of civil management.  He speaks of the Utopians’ sense of justice and jurisprudence; well, he was both a lawyer and a sheriff.  He speaks of the Utopians’ trade policies, and he was a legal representative for merchants across international barriers.  He speaks of the Utopian’s household arrangements, and marital and social conventions; he was a man in midlife, having married and fathered four children, and by the writing of the work a widower.  He speaks of the Utopians’ high level of education and value in philosophy, and More himself was a well-educated man in classical philosophy. The one aspect of the work where the connection back to his life is tenuous, if actually nonexistent, is with that of the Utopians’ military organization and war-fighting doctrines.  There doesn’t seem to be any military service in More’s life.  But nonetheless as a parliamentarian and servant to the King he must have come into contact with issues of warfare.  

Now when I say in the paragraph above that More “writes” of these aspects of Utopians’ life, he puts those words in a character’s mouth.  There are several characters in Utopia and one of them is Thomas More himself as a fictional character.  It should be noted that More the author does not put those words in Thomas More the character’s mouth.  It is not More the character who is speaking of and praising the Utopians; it is a character named Raphael Hythloday.  And this is where I think the difficulty lies in understanding the intent of Utopia.  Do Raphael Hythloday’s opinions and values represent the author’s?  Or is Raphael Hythloday just a foil for More the author to knock down and satirize?  Clearly there are passages that could not rationally be supported by More, but then there are passages that might.

Even the name Raphael Hythloday is ambiguous.  Raphael alludes to the archangel, and so on one hand his name may be suggesting the bringing forth of divine wisdom.  But Hytholday means (I am told) “speaker of nonsense.”  So which is it, wisdom or nonsense? 

More the author makes Hythloday a strange character.  He’s a bearded old man, a Portuguese sailor, and explorer who traveled with Amerigo Vespucci where he learned of many cultures and where he found the perfect in the Utopians.  He is certainly an eccentric in that he prizes the strange aspects of Utopian life.  Perhaps “eccentric” is putting it too mildly.  Perhaps we, the reader, are to look at him as an oddball or a kook.  He speaks at length in what must have been several hours of rambling.  I found his support for the marriage customs hilarious:


Before marriage some grave matron presents the bride, naked, whether she is a virgin or a widow, to the bridegroom, and after that some grave man presents the bridegroom, naked, to the bride. We, indeed, both laughed at this, and condemned it as very indecent. But they, on the other hand, wondered at the folly of the men of all other nations, who, if they are but to buy a horse of a small value, are so cautious that they will see every part of him, and take off both his saddle and all his other tackle, that there may be no secret ulcer hid under any of them, and that yet in the choice of a wife, on which depends the happiness or unhappiness of the rest of his life, a man should venture upon trust, and only see about a handsbreadth of the face, all the rest of the body being covered, under which may lie hid what may be contagious as well as loathsome.  (p. 94, Kypros Press. Kindle Edition.)


Now that is an example of Hythloday as a kook, and More the author lampooning the values of the Utopians.  In other places it’s not so clear.  For instance, here Hythloday explains the nature of the Utopians’ laws.


“They have but few laws, and such is their constitution that they need not many. They very much condemn other nations whose laws, together with the commentaries on them, swell up to so many volumes; for they think it an unreasonable thing to oblige men to obey a body of laws that are both of such a bulk, and so dark as not to be read and understood by every one of the subjects. (p. 98)


Well, that sounds rather practical, a body of laws that are short and to the point.  Who could be against that?  All in all, it’s not always clear whether More is satirizing or conceptualizing an ideal. 

Perhaps the one notion that is a sticking point to modern day readers is what appears to be Hythloday’s endorsement of communism, and, because in this case it doesn’t appear to be satire, coming as an endorsement from More the author.  More the character himself at the end leaves open the possibility of such an endorsement. 


When Raphael had thus made an end of speaking, though many things occurred to me, both concerning the manners and laws of that people, that seemed very absurd, as well in their way of making war, as in their notions of religion and divine matters—together with several other particulars, but chiefly what seemed the foundation of all the rest, their living in common, without the use of money, by which all nobility, magnificence, splendour, and majesty, which, according to the common opinion, are the true ornaments of a nation… (p. 133)


So “many things” of the Utopians seemed rather absurd but not the living in common and the elimination of money.  Is More really endorsing that?  Is More the character in lock step with More the author?  On the one hand, what is being conceptualized is the Benedictine rule of living in common.  On the other hand, the Utopians apply it not to a monastery, where individual bachelors of a single gender choose such a life, but across a nation where families form the basic unit of society.  More the author and married man would realize that a monastic lifestyle could not work in a lay society because the family would no longer be the basic unit.  Indeed, I know of no example of one where it has.  Unfortunately the tone of the writing is not indicative of the author’s intent. 

As one thinks about it, however, the entire economic concept propounded in the book through the Utopians is absurd.  Families living together?  The majority of people idle, and yet agriculture being the primary means of sustenance, where the few that do work only labor six hours a day?  In what farming community could that possibly be true?  It’s impossible.  It’s nowhere! 

So what are we to make the book?  The book fails for me because it is impossible to distinguish what are serious propositions to improve society and what are “nonsense” ramblings of an eccentric old man, and if all is to be taken as nonsense ramblings, to what end?  “Utopia” means “nowhere.”  So why should we read about this nonexistent and not even possible ideal?  Ultimately then it would be a farce, but the tone of the work doesn’t feel like a farce.  Why should we go through a 134 pages of silly notions?  Is More satirizing the Utopians?  Is he satirizing the exploration writings that was becoming a formal genre in his day?  Or is he satirizing philosophic treatises with kooky old Hythloday as a silly savant?  Ultimately I can’t tell.

But on a second read, I have to admit, I was entertained.  Once I came to the conclusion that Hythloday is just an oddball not to be taken seriously I enjoyed the zaniness of the monologue.  As a philosophic work, Utopia has its issues.  As a tongue-in-cheek farce I found it a worthwhile read. 

I thought this was a very informative video on St. Thomas More and Utopia.

Sunday, January 3, 2021

Sunday Meditation: Caravans of Camels

This Sunday will be my first time serving as lector and do the first two readings! And what great readings this Sunday since it will be the Feast of the Epiphany. What an honor, blessing, and a grace for me.


“Then you [Jerusalem] shall be radiant at what you see,
your heart shall throb and overflow,
for the riches of the sea shall be emptied out before you,
the wealth of nations shall be brought to you.
Caravans of camels shall fill you,
dromedaries from Midian and Ephah;
all from Sheba shall come
bearing gold and frankincense,
and proclaiming the praises of the LORD.”

       -Isaiah 60:5-6


Part of the beautiful readings from the Feast of the Epiphany.

Thursday, December 31, 2020

Personal Note: Happy New Year 2021

Aren’t we all glad to get rid of 2020?  Here are a few graphics to commemorate 2020 and bring on the New Year.





I have to say, this is a really cool video to sum up 2020 and have hope for 2021.



So when that ball drops tonight and it’s 2021, you have my permission to party!






Wednesday, December 30, 2020

Utopia by St. Thomas More, Part 2

This is the second post in a series on St. Thomas More’s Utopia.  

You can find the first post here.

In trying to understand Utopia I felt I needed to understand Thomas More’s life, and so I put together a time line of his life in bullet form.  I could not find such a timeline on the internet.  Various sites, such as Wikipedia, summarize his life, but none of the websites seemed to include everything.  I don’t think anyone site I came across was truly comprehensive.  This is not comprehensive either.  I left some more minor details out in an effort to not create clutter.  These are what I see as the major details of his life, and below it I add More’s major literary works in a time line.  Between these two timelines, I think we can put Utopia into his biographical perspective.  More on that below.


Thomas More Timeline


1478 Born in London to Sir John and Agnes More

1490 Placed under tutelage of Cardinal John Morton

1492 Oxford to study law

1494 Admitted to Lincoln Inn Law Society

1496 Enters Law School

1501 Admitted to Bar as “Utter Barister”

1503 Falls into King Henry VII’s disfavor

1504 First entered Parliament

1504 Marries Joan Colt, who bears him four children

1509 King Henry VII dies

1509 Rises to prominence as a lawyer

1509 Represented London merchants in Antwerp

1510-8 Served as Under Sheriff of London

1511 Wife Joan dies in childbirth

1514 Becomes Master of Regants

1515 Appointed to delegation to revise Anglo-Flemish commercial treaty

1517 Resolves Evil Day Mob riot in London

1518 Resigns from City government to work for King Henry VIII

1521 Knighted

1521 Made Under-Treasurer of Exchequer

1523 Becomes Speaker of the House of Commons

1525 Becomes Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

1529 Becomes Lord Chancellor

1532 Resigns Lord Chancellor

1535 Executed


Major Literary Works:

1513-18 History of Richard III

1516 Utopia (Latin)

1523 Response to Luther

1528 Dialogue Concerning Heresies

1529 Supplication of Souls

1531 Confutation of Tyndale

 The landmarks of his life which I think are pertinent to his writing of Utopia are these: (1) Childhood spent among the vowed religious.  (2) At the age of twenty-six and three years after entering the bar he enters parliament, right around the time he falls in the disfavor of King Henry VII.  (3) More marries Joan Colt that same year.  (4) At the age of 31, he represents London merchants in Antwerp, ostensibly the setting for the Utopia discourse.  (5) He publishes Utopia seven years later, More being 38 years old, and one can presume he was writing it at some point in the intervening years.   (6) His wife dies giving childbirth two years after representing London at Antwerp, and five years before publishing Utopia, More being 33.  So at the time of the publishing of Utopia, More is a mature man, experienced marriage, political success and disfavor, the birth of four children, and the tragedy of his wife’s death.