Here
were my observations for the second and third mansions from the Goodreads Catholic
Thought book club discussions on St. Theresa of Avila's Interior Castle.
You
can read Part 1, here.
Second
Mansion
Susan Margaret wrote: "In the first
paragraph on the Second Mansions, Teresa mentions something that I think all of
us on Goodreads – Catholic Thought have in common and that is, “…most of us
never get tired of the multitude of
books that deal with matters of the soul” (pg 55, Mirabai Starr edition). I
really like the fact that Teresa is such an avid reader; it gives me something
I can easily relate to. "
Manny in repsnse: I'm amazed at how learned she is. I don't know the details of her biography; how did she become so well read and a fine writer for a woman of her age. It's a rare woman in her times that even got to go to school, let alone be so exceptional.
Manny in repsnse: I'm amazed at how learned she is. I don't know the details of her biography; how did she become so well read and a fine writer for a woman of her age. It's a rare woman in her times that even got to go to school, let alone be so exceptional.
Kerstin wrote: "I find her writing style a
little rambling. It almost seems as if one has to make a synopsis of every
paragraph to extract what the essence is."
Manny in repsonse: Kerstin, if I may speculate, I think what you're having trouble with is St. Theresa's poeticism. She writes like a poet. So much of what she says is in analogies, similes, and metaphors, and therefore it's not direct. And to be fair to St. Theresa, the subject matter doesn't lend itself to direct speech. Such spirituality is difficult to express, and one has to grasp for comparisons. I could be wrong. I could also be the translation.
For me, I had similar issues at the beginning. But over time her style has worked its way into my head. I'm fifteen pages from the end, and her writing seems quite logical and conversive.
Manny in repsonse: Kerstin, if I may speculate, I think what you're having trouble with is St. Theresa's poeticism. She writes like a poet. So much of what she says is in analogies, similes, and metaphors, and therefore it's not direct. And to be fair to St. Theresa, the subject matter doesn't lend itself to direct speech. Such spirituality is difficult to express, and one has to grasp for comparisons. I could be wrong. I could also be the translation.
For me, I had similar issues at the beginning. But over time her style has worked its way into my head. I'm fifteen pages from the end, and her writing seems quite logical and conversive.
Matthew in the
Introduction section mentioned he felt he was mostly in the first mansion. I would have to say for me—and I bet most of
us here—are in the second mansion. In
the 2nd paragraph is where she describes those people:
“In this part of the
castle are found souls which. have begun to practise prayer; they realize the
importance of their not remaining in the first mansions, yet often lack
determination to quit their present condition by avoiding occasions of sin,
which is a very perilous state to be in.
However, it is a great grace that they should sometimes make good their
escape from the vipers and poisonous creatures around them and should
understand the need of avoiding them. In some way these souls suffer a great
deal more than those in the first mansions, although not in such danger, as
they begin to understand their peril and there are great hopes of their
entering farther into the castle. I say that they suffer a great deal more, for
those in an earlier stage are like deaf-mutes and are not so distressed at
being unable to speak, while the others, who can hear but cannot talk, find it
much harder. At the same time, it is better not to be deaf, and a decided advantage
to hear what is said to us.”
Yes
that probably describes me. I pray and
understand the condition of my sins, and understand the need to avoid them, but
I can’t say I break free of them often.
She goes on in the next paragraph to understand the psychology of me and
those like me:
“These souls hear our
Lord calling them, for as they approach nearer to where His Majesty dwells He
proves a loving Neighbour, though they may still be engaged in the amusements
and business, the pleasures and vanities of this world. While in this state we
continually fall into sin and rise again, for the creatures amongst whom we
dwell are so venomous, so vicious, and so dangerous, that it is almost
impossible to avoid being tripped up by them. Yet such are the pity and
compassion of this Lord of ours, so desirous is He that we should seek Him and
enjoy His company, that in one way or another He never ceases calling us to
Him. So sweet is His voice, that the poor soul is disconsolate at being unable
to follow His bidding at once, and therefore, as I said, suffers more than if
it could not hear Him.”
Though
I hear our Lord, we are just too wrapped up in the business and amusements of
this world, like the Super Bowl. You
would think that watching the Super Bowl would be relatively innocuous but it
would amaze how many little sins will happen during the course of a Super Bowl
party: the language, the bad thoughts, the gambling, the pleasure of watching
someone lose, etc. All venial sins, I’m
sure, but sins nonetheless sins which pull you away from elevating the
soul.
Third
Mansion
Along
the line of needing a trusted spiritual adviser, this paragraph from the first
chapter of the third mansion suggests that it would be helpful and that it
might not:
"Still I must give
you one warning: be not too confident because you are nuns and the daughters of
such a Mother. David was very holy, yet you know what Solomon became. Therefore do not rely on your enclosure, on
your penitential life, nor on your continual exercise of prayer and constant
communion with God, nor trust in having left the world or in the idea that you
hold its ways in horror. All this is good, but is not enough, as I have already
said, to remove all fear; therefore meditate on this text and often recall it:
'Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord.' "
You
could look at that paragraph and conclude you can't do it on your own, Even Solomon failed. But it also warns that just because you have
Theresa of Avila as a spiritual mother, it doesn't mean that you will
progress. I've never had a spiritual
director, and it would have to be someone I really felt comfortable with if I
were to take one on, but I don't know how much it helps. I guess it can't hurt.
In
reply to Andy above, I found this somewhere in the middle in the second chapter
to be significant:
“Believe me, the question
is not whether we wear the religious habit or not, but whether we practise the
virtues and submit our will in all things to the will of God. The object of our
life must be to do what He requires of us: let us not ask that our will may be
done, but His. If we have not yet attained to this, let us be humble, as I said
above. Humility is the ointment for our wounds; if we have it, although perhaps
He may defer His coming for a time, God, Who is our Physician, will come and
heal us.”
Humility
and submission to the will of God in all things—which is the same thing—is how
one makes it to the third mansion.
This is all too intellectual for me, Manny.
ReplyDeleteGod bless.
It's not an easy read, but mostly because of the way she writes. Once people have explained what she means, it's not too intellectual. She employs different types of meditation to conform herself to Christ, and the closer she gets to Christ, the further in the castle she gets. It's not too different than Lectia Devina, if you know that sort of Jesuit prayer.
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