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Tuesday, March 29, 2022

Poetry Analysis: The Journey of the Magi by T.S. Eliot

Given the similarity in themes, this poem, “The Journey of the Magi” by T.S. Eliot and G.K. Chesterton’s poem “The Wise Men” were part of the discussion at the end of Fr. Dwight Longenecker’s book, The Mystery of the Magi: The Quest to Identify the Three Wise Men.  So this and a coming post on Chesterton’s poem are associated as Magi posts.  You can read the four part blog posts on Longenecker’s book: Part 1,  Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4.  

 

Here is Eliot’s poem.

 

The Journey of the Magi

By T.S. Eliot

 

A cold coming we had of it,
Just the worst time of the year
For a journey, and such a long journey:
The ways deep and the weather sharp,
The very dead of winter.'
And the camels galled, sorefooted, refractory,
Lying down in the melting snow.
There were times we regretted
The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces,
And the silken girls bringing sherbet.
Then the camel men cursing and grumbling
and running away, and wanting their liquor and women,
And the night-fires going out, and the lack of shelters,
And the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly
And the villages dirty and charging high prices:
A hard time we had of it.
At the end we preferred to travel all night,
Sleeping in snatches,
With the voices singing in our ears, saying
That this was all folly.

Then at dawn we came down to a temperate valley,
Wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation;
With a running stream and a water-mill beating the darkness,
And three trees on the low sky,
And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow.
Then we came to a tavern with vine-leaves over the lintel,
Six hands at an open door dicing for pieces of silver,
And feet kicking the empty wine-skins.
But there was no information, and so we continued
And arriving at evening, not a moment too soon
Finding the place; it was (you might say) satisfactory.

All this was a long time ago, I remember,
And I would do it again, but set down
This set down
This: were we led all that way for
Birth or Death? There was a Birth, certainly
We had evidence and no doubt. I had seen birth and death,
But had thought they were different; this Birth was
Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.
We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,
But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,
With an alien people clutching their gods.
I should be glad of another death.

  

You can listen to T.S. Eliot reading his own poem here:

 


First we should note the form of the poem.  We have three uneven stanzas, the first of twenty lines, the second of eleven lines, and the third of twelve lines.  It is in free verse of uneven line length with no rhyme scheme.  It’s pretty close to natural speech.  If you could summarize the theme of each stanza, one could say the first is the journey, the second is the arrival, and the third is trying to comprehend the experience.  We see that the first two stanzas, the narrator speaks in the inclusive “we” while in the third he shifts to the personal “I.” 

We see that in the first stanza the journey was difficult: cold, long, dirty, expensive, sleepless, having to sustain uncouth and repulsive workers and hostile cities, all the while dreaming of the “silken girls” of summer back home and hearing the voices in his head saying it was “folly.”  The details are of bodily lusts, and of other sinful and unkind acts, and the scenery of a waste land of winter, dead snow, nothing growing.  The central animal imagery is of camels who are “galled,” that is to say chafed, irate, who are “sorefooted,” that is struggling, and “refractory,” that is to say resistant, stubborn.  In fact, the word “refractory,” an odd word to use in a poem, characterizes the whole first stanza: resistance.

In the second stanza, the narrator comes to a “temperate valley,” echoing perhaps the land of milk and honey.  We have “vegetation,” so we have life.  We have running water and civilization with the wind-mill, and a horse, this stanza’s central animal image, in the meadow.  We have allusions to the sacraments, a running stream for baptism, vegetation with a wind mill suggesting grain milled into flour for bread, and a tavern with vine leaves suggesting wine.  But we have not come to Eden.  Interwoven we have images of the crucifixion: the three trees and hands dicing for silver, and feet kicking “empty wine-skins.”  But the narrator concludes with the word “satisfactory,” the word that I think characterizes this stanza and which by the way rhymes with the word “refractory” from the previous.  On first blush, “satisfactory” sounds anticlimactic until you look at its Latin root of satis, meaning enough, sufficient.  Yes what they found was anticlimactic, after all it was only a baby they found, but the baby was “enough,” “sufficient,” “fulfilling.” 

In the final stanza what is at first striking is the absolute lack of imagery.  There is none.  Everything is an abstraction.  Birth is a summary descriptive; it lacks any specificity.  The same thing with death.  There are no images of birth and death given.  “Kingdoms,” “evidence,” “remember,” “agony,” and “dispensation” are more abstractions.  The closest he comes to an image is with “alien people clutching their gods.”  While the clutching of gods is still an abstraction, it does approximate an image, and what a strange way to end a Christian poem with an image of people holding on to their pagan gods.  “Dispensation” is I think the word that characterizes this stanza, and I think defines the entire poem.  I’ll get to that shortly.

So what are we to make of the entire poem?  Yes, it’s the first person account from one of the Magi, but this poem came shortly after Eliot’s profound religious conversion.  In a sense perhaps this poem is taking us through his biographical journey.  What do we make of the three stanza division?  When you see three you kind of think of the Trinity, but unfortunately there is no way to link any of the Persons of the Trinity to the first and second stanza.  No that doesn’t fit, but perhaps you can think of this as Dante’s journey through the Divine Comedy, with the first stanza being hell, the second being purgatory, and the third being heaven.  That fits rather nicely when you know that Eliot loved Dante. 

Perhaps an even better organizing principle is St. Augustine’s City of God.  There Augustine constructs the polar opposites of the City of Man versus the City of God, but more importantly he divides the City of Man into two parts, the pagan world and the world of Judaism, that is, of the Old Testament.  Could we see the first stanza as sitting in for the pagan world, the second stanza for the world of the Old Testament, and the third stanza for the sublime New Testament’s City of God?  I certainly think so.  The first stanza is filled with pagan idolatry of wine (liquor), women, and song (voices singing in our ears)!  The people around him are completely undisciplined, seeking only satisfying bodily passions.  Even the Magi dreams of girls and sherbet.  There is no self-sacrifice.  Only grumbling of discomforts, hostility, and no turning the other cheek.  Even the “folly” of the voices seems to echo St. Paul’s “Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles’ (1 Cor 23).  The ‘folly” comes from the perception of gentiles.

In the second stanza I mentioned how we have the rudiments of the sacraments, but unfulfilled, and we even have the lintel of the Passover.  We also have the allusions to the crucifixion, and we have the white horse, which I think is a symbol of earthly power, which becomes harnessed in heaven (there are several white horses in the Book of Revelation) but here runs away.  The most intriguing image is that of the empty wine-skins.  This alludes to Jesus’ parable of the wineskins: “no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the new wine will burst the skins, and it will be spilled, and the skins will be ruined.  Rather, new wine must be poured into fresh wineskins” (Lk 5:37-8).  In Jesus’ parable, the old wineskin is Israel of the Old Testament.  It cannot hold the new wine that is Jesus or the new covenant. 

In the final stanza we are met with “Birth” and “Death,” both strikingly capitalized.  What Eliot has done here is merged the two.  Birth and death are one which is merged in the person of Jesus Christ.  Indeed, how many births and deaths can we draw up here?  There is Christ of course.  There is the Magus narrator who is now born to a new life and realizes that this birth is a mortification—a death to the body.  There is the same for the poet Eliot in his personal experience, a new devout Eliot and the old pagan Eliot dead.  But there is the death that Christ’s birth conquered through His resurrection, so that with heaven open we all can be born to eternal life.  His birth ends death through a new birth.  Finally it is no accident I think that the last stanza has twelve lines.  The Feast of the Magi is celebrated on the twelfth day of Christmas, but more importantly the number twelve symbolizes completeness in Biblical numerology, not just completeness but fulfillment.  The Old Testament is fulfilled in the New.  Indeed then one can look back at the other stanzas and link the twenty lines of the first stanza to the undisciplined indulgence of the pagan world, and the eleven lines of the second stanza to the coming short and unfulfilled of the Old Testament world.  I don’t know if Eliot had Augustine’s City of God in mind but the construction and details work very well.

Finally I must mention what I think is the greatest poetic flare of the entire poem.  I’ve read this poem for decades and never saw this, and it has elevated this poem from a good to a great poem for me.  It’s these lines that are so easy to overlook and probably aren’t even comprehensible.  They weren’t for me all these years, and for some reason I never stopped to draw their significance.  But then I never stopped to break the poem down like this.  You miss so much if you don’t analyze a poem in a formal, disciplined way.  These lines: “And I would do it again, but set down/This set down/This: were we led all that way for…”  It actually sounds discombobulated: “but set down/This set down/This.”  Eliot never describes the manger scene, the Christ child, and the holy parents.  He can’t.  You can’t describe the mystery of the incarnation.  It’s beyond words.  The experience has overwhelmed him.  It is a conversion experience.  It is indescribable.  It’s the same with my personal religious experience.  I was essentially a pagan.  I was moved beyond comprehension, and I can’t for the life of me describe it.  Words just fail.  I assume the same thing happened to Eliot on his conversion.  Despite Eliot being the greatest poet in English of the 20th century he can’t describe it.  It comes down to a babbling incomprehension.  It comes down to “this,” just “this.”  Nothing more. 

And so when the magus returns to his country, to those “alien people,” he is the one alienated.  He has to live in the “old dispensation,” which means in the old order of things.  Look up the definition of “dispensation.”  (1) A general order or arrangement of things.  (2) An exemption from the law or vow or some rule.  (3) An act of dispensing, distributing.  So he is alienated in the world of the old arrangement; but now exempt from the old law of the Old Testament, and has received the dispensed free grace of God to those of faith.  He has been profoundly changed.  He has gone through a birth, which is the death of his old self. And awaits the death of his bodily self into a new birth. 

You may not like this poem, but it is a rich, rich poem by one of the greatest poets to ever have lived.  In just a mere 43 lines, he has taken the reader through a powerful experience.

Also the shift to the personal "I" in the last stanza makes the experience singular. We ultimately go before the Lord as individuals. It is our individual hearts that are changed.


Casey Commented:

Thank you, Manny. This was an excellent articulation of the poem and it does help a great deal.

 

I disagree a bit that one gains most in analyzing a poem formally. A poem ought to convey that which cannot be conveyed ordinarily. That is, a poem, as unit, conveys something complete. I feel this poem fails in that regard.

 

However, after reading that articulation, I wonder if it fails for me because I have not had the kind of conversion experience you describe. Perhaps the unit of meaning is something that I cannot grasp having not experienced it. As one might never grasp the experience of eating persimmon who has never eaten one.

My reply to Casey:

Perhaps a little bit. But I think the poem grew on me as I uncovered more and more of its muted poetic elements, even beside that inarticulate moment in the poem. Poems such as this are not as obvious as poems that have established form such as meter and rhyme. Both types of poems have organizing principles, and while the organizing principle is given in say the Chesterton poem, here you have to deduce it. It so happened that I was reading Augustine's City of God the other day and was fresh on my mind. If it's the musicality of poetry that is pleasing to you, then I can understand why this one doesn't suit your taste. But for me it was the connections and the word play (refractory/satisfactory/vegetation/dispensation), the supporting imagery, all culminating in a life changing experience that made me realize it was a great poem. Was it you that used the word "encoded" to see how the Old Testament is found in the New? Someone used that word recently in that context. Eliot does similar. He "encodes" meaning through words and images and progression to pack what could easily be a novel length story into just 43 lines. The beauty of this poem is to see all that.

Kerstin Commented:

Manny, I get the feeling you like the puzzling out of wordplays, the detective work of looking what is deeper in these types of poems by picking the language apart. To me this looks like a lot of work. I like it a little easier presented, give me the imagery in ready to comprehend pieces. But I think this has to do with what sorts of things we enjoy and where our aptitudes lay. I can spend countless hours learning about traditional/ancestral preserving and cooking methods, trying to perfect making country paté, mayonnaise, or sourdough bread. The hours can fly by and I don't even notice. I can imagine you can spend this kind of time delighting in what you can uncover in a poem.

My Reply to Kerstin:

LOL, well yes. But the puzzling out is not the objective. The objective is to understand the artistry. It's not just poems or novels but paintings and symphonies and such. For some people understanding the artistry takes the wonder out of the work. For others understanding the artistry gives the work its full wonder. I'm in the latter category.

My Comment:

Oh I'm sorry you guys don't like this. It's really a great poem.

 

If you didn't like Eliot reading it himself, you should listen to this great read by Sir john Gielgood:

 


 

Or this reading by this young man, Tim Martin.  I have no idea who he is, but this might be the very best reading:

 



I have to admit, I love T.S. Eliot's poetry.  The name of this blog is taken from Eliot's Four Quartets. 



Sunday, March 27, 2022

Sunday Meditation: The Prodigal Son

Perhaps the greatest of all Jesus’s parables.

Tax collectors and sinners were all drawing near to listen to Jesus,

but the Pharisees and scribes began to complain, saying,

“This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”

So to them Jesus addressed this parable:

“A man had two sons, and the younger son said to his father,

‘Father give me the share of your estate that should come to me.’

So the father divided the property between them.

After a few days, the younger son collected all his belongings

and set off to a distant country

where he squandered his inheritance on a life of dissipation.

When he had freely spent everything,

a severe famine struck that country,

and he found himself in dire need.

So he hired himself out to one of the local citizens

who sent him to his farm to tend the swine.

And he longed to eat his fill of the pods on which the swine fed,

but nobody gave him any.

Coming to his senses he thought,

‘How many of my father’s hired workers

have more than enough food to eat,

but here am I, dying from hunger.

I shall get up and go to my father and I shall say to him,

“Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you.

I no longer deserve to be called your son;

treat me as you would treat one of your hired workers.”’

So he got up and went back to his father.

While he was still a long way off,

his father caught sight of him, and was filled with compassion.

He ran to his son, embraced him and kissed him.

His son said to him,

‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you;

I no longer deserve to be called your son.’

But his father ordered his servants,

‘Quickly bring the finest robe and put it on him;

put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet.

Take the fattened calf and slaughter it.

Then let us celebrate with a feast,

because this son of mine was dead, and has come to life again;

he was lost, and has been found.’

Then the celebration began.

Now the older son had been out in the field

and, on his way back, as he neared the house,

he heard the sound of music and dancing.

He called one of the servants and asked what this might mean.

The servant said to him,

‘Your brother has returned

and your father has slaughtered the fattened calf

because he has him back safe and sound.’

He became angry,

and when he refused to enter the house,

his father came out and pleaded with him.

He said to his father in reply,

‘Look, all these years I served you

and not once did I disobey your orders;

yet you never gave me even a young goat to feast on with my friends.

But when your son returns

who swallowed up your property with prostitutes,

for him you slaughter the fattened calf.’

He said to him,

‘My son, you are here with me always;

everything I have is yours.

But now we must celebrate and rejoice,

because your brother was dead and has come to life again;

he was lost and has been found.’”

-Lk 15:1-3, 11-32

 

This is just a superb clip from what I think is the greatest of the Christ movies, Franco Zefferlli’s Jesus of Nazareth.

 


And then the wonderful Brant Pitre explains an aspect of the parable I didn’t realize.

 

That he connects the older son with the Pharisees and scribes from the beginning of the passage is so on the mark.

Monday, March 21, 2022

Essay: Justification by Faith But Not Alone

On a particular conservative online board I belong to we have a Catholics group where a few non Catholics are in the group.  They are in the group because they have a pull toward Catholicism but have not converted yet.  One such person, Stina, asked about the differences in justification between Protestants and Catholics.  I gave a series of answers which I will post here on the blog.  Mind you, I am not a learned theologian, so I am only speaking here for me and not as any officially trained theologian for the Catholic Church.  I am only presenting this as I understand the Catholic position on justification.  So don’t take this as an official Catholic Church position, but from a layman who has had a passing non-professional interest.

This is Stina’s question:

Hey Catholics… my church just started a new member class so they are going over their statements of faith. I already know I have some issues there, but I’m doing a deep dive into Calvinism and Arminianism just to figure out what it is they say and where I fit… it’s a lot of needle threading and angels on pinheads. I’m not leaning in either direction.

 

I have some idea on the Catholic view of Ephesians 2:8-10, but can you guys maybe encapsulate your concept of Salvation by grace through faith? I don’t know if it would be better if you know the Protestant theologies or not, so let there be a free for all.

I’m only going to provide my series of responses, and since this was at a board, it’s somewhat disjointed.  I have cleaned up the syntax to make my thoughts clear for the blog post.

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Response 1:

Stina this is one of the most complicated of questions. I don’t know if I can summarize succinctly but I will try. Two things you first should understand. (1) Protestants and Catholics define justification slightly differently. Jimmy Akin of Catholic Answers does a nice job in explaining. Just google “Jimmy Akin Justification” and you’ll see a number of articles. But when you try to reach a level ground in definitions between the two, you find there is not too much difference. (2) Even with the leveling of definitions, Catholics do not believe in the “alone” part of justification. It’s not justification by faith alone.

That said I’ll try to summarize but this may be a bit scattered. St. Peter Damian, he was the Thomas Aquinas from 200 years before Aquinas, said, paraphrasing here, faith is the foundation of justification. Faith is primary on which you need for salvation. It’s from faith that everything else is built on.

Now if you go through the New Testament, you will find several different things delineated as needed for salvation. In some places you need to “repent.” In some places you need to be baptized. In some places you need to take up your cross and follow Jesus. In some places you need to “serve.” [See washing of the feet passage.] Christ says you need to do what he has done. Finally in sum you need to obey Christ’s commandments, which come down to acts of mercy. So doing works is obeying Christ. All the parables hinge on works but see especially Matt 25. The goats on the left all have faith but they are not saved. 

All of this is a result of grace. As Lois says above grace is infused in you, not just by Christ sacrificial death but by a continuous acceptance of the graces God offers every moment. I think Protestants look at grace as a one time thing but Catholics look at grace as a continuous offering from God and you accept as much as you can. Take an act that some Protestants might consider a work, say feeding the hungry in a soup kitchen. If you’re doing it because you feel it gets you to heaven, that’s works righteousness and it does not get you to heaven. We would agree with Protestants there. But if you’re doing it because the poor are in front of you and your compassion is leading you to do it, then are obeying Christ’s commandment to feed the hungry. You are obeying Christ and receiving graces from it. Such grace strengthens your faith, and so conforms your heart to Christ’s heart. That is ultimately salvation: when your heart becomes Christ’s heart. There is a symbiotic relationship between grace and faith.

Not sure I made it clear. I have to run but I’ll be back for a little more.

Response #2:

So let’s look at that passage in Ephesians:

8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

So you can see how all the elements of the argument are there in the passage: faith, grace, works.  Notice how Protestants zero in on line 9: “not by works” but they don’t really have a good explanation for line 10: “For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works.”  It really ignores St. Paul’s passage in 1 Cor 13.  There he says it’s not faith alone but “faith, hope, and love.”  And by love it’s charitas, charity.  You need all three to shape your heart into Christ’s heart.  In fact, St. Paul even says “If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love (charity), I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal.  And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing.”  So all the faith in the world without charitas he has nothing, he will sound just like a clashing cymbal.  Sometimes when I hear Protestants argue faith alone it sounds like a clashing cymbal, especially when it leads to “once saved always saved” doctrine.  How ludicrous.  And notice how that dovetails perfectly with Matthew 25: the goats had no charitas and really their argument is just a clashing cymbal.

I recall an argument I had with a Protestant over this, and her comeback to me was “then how much works do you have to do to be saved?”  (paraphrasing).  She thought that was a perfect comeback and that’s because she sees justification as solely “imputed” by Christ’s sacrifice on the cross.  Catholics see justification as infused.  We are always before Christ on the cross receiving or rejecting grace.  Scott Hahn describes the differences in this way.  Protestants think of justification as a legal transaction, so that person I argued with makes perfect sense to her line of thinking since she wants to know the contractual details.  But Catholics, Hahn argues, think in terms of covenant, a marriage.  We try to serve our spouse as best we can but surely it’s not perfectly.  My love for my wife can’t be measured in how many times per week I do the dishes but because I want to do the dishes for her as much as I can.  My love for my wife is “infused” with faith in each other and the “works” we have done for each other.

More to come still. 

Stina Replied:

I’m not quite certain how justification is being defined. I’ve heard it used in a myriad of ways that I don’t know if I use it the same as others do.

 

I’m justified by grace through faith. But my faith is justified by works. So grace is what saves me, faith is my response to it, and works are evidence of that faith… while the works are also used by the spirit to sanctify me (because grace). It’s a cycle!

 

If I have no works, my relationship suffers. I become like a dead branch on a tree no longer bearing fruit, As if my faith is dead. Jesus says dead branches are cut off. Hebrews confirms it.

My Reply to Stina:

Simply Stina, justification is the basis on which you are judged for salvation. Protestants like to focus on that because it seems like a court room situation, and the evidence you are presenting to Christ is according to Protestants your faith. But Catholics don’t think of it as a court scene; Catholics think of it as like the prodigal son. He repents and works his way back to his father. Yes, faith compelled him but he had to do other things too. That’s why St. Peter Damian says it’s the foundation of justification but not the totality of salvation. I like to think of it as a resume. You can’t get a job as a mechanical engineer without a degree in mechanical engineering. The degree is a pre-requisite. But that’s not the sole criteria. Your grades are going to play a role in the hiring, your character, your obstacles, the type of school you went to. There are lots of things on that resume. Faith is a pre-requisite but not the sole criteria. You can’t get into heaven without faith but there are other factors too. Ultimately as I said it’s the state of your heart as conformed to Christ.

Another Reply to Stina:

From Stina above:

“If I have no works, my relationship suffers. I become like a dead branch on a tree no longer bearing fruit, As if my faith is dead. Jesus says dead branches are cut off. Hebrews confirms it.”

 

Yes, that’s what I mean by a symbiotic relationship. 

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Response #3:

In all of this I haven’t even brought up how sin plays a part in salvation.  Protestants never seem to mention sin.  For them all of this is a one-time event, Christ’s crucifixion redeems all sins, past, present, and future.  I don’t quite get the logic but it seems like there is an automatic implied repentance as you live your life.  I find that ridiculous.  But some Protestants do require an internal private repentance.  That’s good, but that shows you it’s not faith alone.  So Protestants have kind of trapped themselves in this faith alone justification.  If you hold to faith alone, then to be philosophically consistent it leads to “once saved, always saved.”  Which is clearly not in the Gospels.  So they’re either violating sola scriptura or they are violating justification by faith alone.

So let’s look at how sin plays apart in this.  Let’s use that marriage analogy.  If I don’t do the dishes one night, it’s a venial sin.  No one is going to say I’m not a good husband because I left the dishes for my wife to do last night.  But it would be a little sin and some retrospection would be in order.  But if my wife were seriously ill and there were out of pocket costs and I said I didn’t want to pay them, well that’s a pretty lousy husband.  That would be a mortal sin.  That would require a huge repentance if you wanted to keep your marriage intact.  Just because you made a one time marriage vow doesn’t excuse that level of reprehension.  Same thing with our relationship with Christ.  We fail on little and big things, venial and mortal sins.  Sin is a part of justification, and is rooted in the lack of obedience I mentioned up above.  We have to follow Christ’s commandments.  We are not excused from moral law, and it plays into salvation.

Which brings us to the sacraments, as WC mentions.  The sacraments are a direct engagement with God’s grace.  Not only does He offer grace to us on a continuous basis He offers it directly in the sacraments.  Certainly the sacrament of reconciliation is a direct means to resolve our sins and therefore be put in a proper “state of grace.”  See the language there.  Grace is being offered continuously but through sin one rejects that grace, and we need to be that prodigal son and return to our Father’s state of grace.  And the other sacraments bring us either closer to God (conforming our hearts) or satisfy the other aspects of justification, such as baptism and repentance.  All the aspects of the Catholic life brings us into justification with Christ. 

Hope that all helps.  There’s a book called “Grace and Justification: An Evangelical’s Guide to Catholic Beliefs” by Stephan Wood.  I haven’t read it really, just flipped through it.  It’s kind of dry as a subject unless you’re really into the theology.  I have seen Wood interviewed and he makes perfect sense.  That’s why I bought the book.  Wood is a convert to Catholicism.  You might be interested.

Now I need to get back to work!  LOL.

My Response to WC:

From WC:

“There also seems to be confusion about “justification” versus “sanctification.” I admit, I don’t quite understand all the different thoughts on justification”

 

Yes. The Calvinist branch of Protestantism completely excludes sanctification. Sanctification is part of justification for Catholics. It’s technically what I said as conforming our hearts to Christ’s heart. Our obedience to Christ, especially through acts of mercy, is a process of sanctification. The Protestant movement of Arminianism rejected Calvinism and did a 180 degree on this is a return to Apostolic Christinaity. Look at their Wikipedia entry. It sounds like they returned to Catholicism on sanctification. But sanctification is a work, and that’s why evangelicals don’t accept it. But look at Methodists. They do. Protestants are all over the place.

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This is a follow up to the above conversation on the question of justification. Marcus Grodi (from The Coming Home Network) has a wonderful article on this subject in an essay, “Salvation Is Nearer Than You Think.”

Marcus is a convert to Catholicism, a former Presbyterian minister, and the founder of The Coming Home Network, an apostolate focused on helping people, especially Protestant ministers, convert to the Catholic faith, and host of The Journey Home program on EWTN, a TV show where Marcus interviews converts to Catholicism.  In “Salvation Is Nearer Than You Think” Marcus creates a parable of a board game to illustrate how salvation works from a Catholic perspective.  It’s rather interesting and involved, so I would advise you to read it.  But from the parable he derives seven things that God will consider when you stand before him at judgement day.  I’m just going to list them. 

 

1. How we loved God.

2. How we loved.

3. How we indirectly loved.

4. How we grew in grace.

5. How we cared for what we were given.

6. How content we were.

7. How our lives inspired others.

Marcus takes you through the scriptures on how he came to these things.  Yes, they are scripturally based.  Somehow Protestants only seem “to see” the faith dependent passages in the New Testament, but there are a whole host of other passages that show salvation is dependent on more than faith.  He summarizes the overarching content of these things with this paragraph.

 

As to the relationship between works and righteousness, faith and love, the “instructions inside the lid of the box” state that “faith apart from works is dead” (Jam 2:26), or as a joint Lutheran-Catholic statement put it: “We confess together that good works — a Christian life lived in faith, hope and love — follow justification and are its fruits. When the justified live in Christ and act in the grace they receive, they bring forth, in biblical terms, good fruit. . . . Thus both Jesus and the apostolic Scriptures admonish Christians to bring forth the works of love.”

Finally he comes to the same conclusion that I did above.

 

On the other hand, the Catechism of the Catholic Church warns that Catholics safely home in the Church can still miss the mark: “Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved” (no. 837). Essentially and succinctly, as put by Thomas Howard:

 

There is only one agenda for all of us Christians, namely, our growing into conformity to Jesus Christ, that is to say, our being made perfect in Charity. We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, and at that tribunal there is not one test for Protestants and another for Catholics. All of us have arrived there by grace, and all of us are “washed in the blood of the Lamb”, and all of us are to have been configured to Christ.

 

To a very significant extent, all sin is a failure to love; all divisions and schisms are a failure of charity; and all abuse and misuse of God’s Creation is a failure to love Him.

As I tried to describe above, sin, charity, and the sacraments lead the Christian either to conform his heart to that of Jesus’ heart or irrevocably away from it.  That, finally, is justification.

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Now finally, to give you a third perspective, here is a Catholic theologian explaining it all in a theologian’s way.  This is the amazingly brilliant Fr. Thomas Joseph White, O.P., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Joseph_White  here with the Thomistic Institute but he is now rector at the Angelicum, the Pontifical University in Rome, explaining in a YouTube video the relationship between grace and justification. 

 


How did I do as an amateur theologian?  I probably would not receive a passing grade from Fr. Thomas Joseph.  ;)

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One more thing.  I’ve given you an uneducated layman’s perspective (me), an educated everyman’s perspective (Marcus), and a theologian’s perspective (Fr. Joseph Thomas).  Now a one line scriptural perspective.  From the Gospel of John:


Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him.  (Jn 3:36)

Sunday, March 20, 2022

Sunday Meditation: The Great I AM

This week, the Old Testament reading is most worthy of meditation.


Moses was tending the flock of his father-in-law Jethro, the priest of Midian.

Leading the flock across the desert, he came to Horeb, the mountain of God.

There an angel of the LORD appeared to Moses in fire flaming out of a bush.

As he looked on, he was surprised to see that the bush, though on fire, was not consumed.

So Moses decided, “I must go over to look at this remarkable sight, and see why the bush is not burned.”

 

When the LORD saw him coming over to look at it more closely, God called out to him from the bush, "Moses! Moses!”

He answered, “Here I am.”

God said, “Come no nearer! Remove the sandals from your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.

I am the God of your fathers, “ he continued, “the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob.”

Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

But the LORD said, “I have witnessed the affliction of my people in Egypt and have heard their cry of complaint against their slave drivers, so I know well what they are suffering.

Therefore I have come down to rescue them from the hands of the Egyptians and lead them out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey.”

 

Moses said to God, “But when I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ if they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what am I to tell them?”

God replied, “I am who am.”

Then he added, “This is what you shall tell the Israelites:

I AM sent me to you.”

 

God spoke further to Moses, “Thus shall you say to the Israelites: The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.

 

“This is my name forever; thus am I to be remembered through all generations.”

-EX 3:1-8, 13-15


 


So God makes Himself known.  Bishop Robert Barron gives us the exegesis, perhaps his greatest sermon.  This is well worth watching.